Talk:North Carolina Highway 403/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: 420Traveler (talk · contribs) 18:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

Good article, but it still has some small problems with respect to the good article criteria.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
nominator created page in 2013 and has been main editor since 2019
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Infobox/lead
- Add a reference to the established date in the infobox.

Done--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- It says 1932 in the lead and infobox, but doesn't mention 1932 in the history section?

This is an oversight. The first map it appears on is the 1933 one but there's a (blogger?) who usually likes the estimate it was the year before, and many of our older pages are based on that. Thanks for pointing it out.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Add comma after 1932.

Done--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Maybe add some info about the predominant landscape it passes through?

Added a quick sentence saying its a rural route, let me know if it should be more.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks Great -420Traveler (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route description
- Add links to the first mention of each city/town/county and to each first mention of a highway in the route description section.

Done.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- The CSX Transportation track, is it an at-grade crossing or does it cross over?

Made the distinction that it is an at-grade crossing.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- "From the community, NC 403 continues northeastward for 2.8 miles (4.5 km) to its northern terminus. NC 403 crosses the Northeast Cape Fear River and enters Wayne County 0.7 miles (1.1 km) southwest of its northern terminus. The northern terminus of NC 403 is located at an intersection with NC 55 in the unincorporated community of Williams." It should say: "continues northeastward for x miles and crosses the Northeast Cape Fear River and enters Wayne County. It continues x miles to its northern terminus at NC 55 in the unincorporated community of Williams" or some variation of that. Let me know if you disagree.

I really wrestled over this wording but I think what you wrote was probably the best. I wasn't too sure about the double "ands" in the second sentence, however, I think it best fits the situation. I tried really hard to get rid of it but couldn't think of a better way.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That looks good. 420Traveler (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- I suggest adding a paragraph about the traffic counts and whether or not it is part of or connects to the National Highway System? Here are some National Highway System maps for North Carolina: [1]

Completed.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great finished the section off great, just one thing is you should add "vehicles per day" after each traffic count number. -420Traveler (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just added that, thank you--Ncchild (talk) 13:40, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Junction list
- Not required, but are any locations available for the 2nd and 3rd row?

I know that no towns claim the area (Faison being the closest one) and to the best of my knowledge it is not in a township or unincorporated community. Personally, I've driven by this exit, there's nothing out there.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thats ok, I know some states dont have towns for every area, just not sure about North Carolina. -420Traveler (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Also, I suggest changing "Junction List" to "Major intersections" since not every junction is listed. Let me know if you disagree.

That's a good idea, I fixed it.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellaneous
- Add a location to all NCDOT references.

Done except for some of the older maps (before it was NCDOT)--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good but before it was NCDOT, were they located in a certain place? -420Traveler (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I went through and added them, the vast majority were in Raleigh. Some I just missed from the source, one I had to make an inference but given all other maps were produced in Winston-Salem that decade, I think it's safe to assume that one was as well.--Ncchild (talk) 13:40, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Its not required for GA, but are any images available?

Funny you said that. When I made the article there was not but as of January 21, someone did upload a good one. Thanks for pointing that out.--Ncchild (talk) 03:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, looks good. -420Traveler (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments before conclusion
- In Route descriptiion: "NC 403 is part of the National Highway System for 0.2 miles (0.32 km) between I-40 and US 117 Connector. The entire section is concurrent with US 117 Connector. Additionally, NC 403 connects with the National Highway system at I-40." The middle sentence doesn't sound right, is there a word missing? -420Traveler (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's not necessarily missing a word but I see where it's confusing. US 117 Connector is part of the NHS and NC 403 runs along it for 0.2. The "northern" terminus of that would be where the route diverges from 117 Connector. I rewrote it as "NC 403 is part of the National Highway System for 0.2 miles (0.32 km), entirely concurrent with US 117 Connector near Faison.". Is that okay?--Ncchild (talk) 14:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- In History: "The new connector route replaced Sampson County SR 1723 and was routed to follow concurrently along NC 403 for 0.2 miles (0.32 km) northeast of I-40." instead of "routed to follow concurrently along NC 403" would "routed to overlap NC 403" sound better? -420Traveler (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think that works a lot better thank you!--Ncchild (talk) 14:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusion

Everything looks good, passing the article now. -420Traveler (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]