Talk:Norfolk parakeet

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was no consensus to move. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norfolk Parakeet → Norfolk Island Green Parrot — To the more descriptive name of the parrot. Snowman (talk) 12:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: After a long discussion at Wikiproject birds a motion was passed 10 to 2 that the IOC name "should be the default position, and that in the cases of no consensus, the name should be at IOC name (that is, for a species to remain at a non-IOC name, there has to be a clear consensus)". This is in line with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)#Article title that "If the article is about an animal belonging to a group where Wikipedia editors have agreed on a standard for choosing among two or more common names, follow that standard". -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 14:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There was a specific discussion on this parrot and the move was contested on the WP Talk page Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Birds#Pages_to_move_.281.29 and there was no consensus to move it. Snowman (talk) 14:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above motion was passed after the discussion about exceptions was derailing the whole process, and therefore supersedes the contested discussion. The motion specifically statetd to move first, and see after wards if tehre is a consensius to deviate from the IOC name. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 15:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This move was contested proving it to be a controversial move and so I believe that it should have been open to discussion outside of the WP Bird talk page with a formal page move discussion. Snowman (talk) 15:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The idea was that contested moves could be discussed after all pages were moved to the IOC names, and |that the IOC name "should be the default position, and that in the cases of no consensus, the name should be at IOC name (that is, for a species to remain at a non-IOC name, there has to be a clear consensus)".. So, we can now see if there is a consensus to deviate from the IOC name, in line with the WP:BIRD discussion. If you do not like that motion, I suggest you file a RFC on that as what happens here is in line with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna). -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 16:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support

Oppose

IOC-names.-- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 14:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dumbest suggestion yet. The species name proposed was an interim one only used for the last few years. The issue about descriptiveness is a non-issue, lots of birds have names that don't tell the whole story of the species. There are no other parakeets on Norfolk, thus the name is descriptive enough. The Aussies now call this species the Tasman Parakeet which if you must move it to would be a better one. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I would be happy to withdraw the name move, based on the good argument by User Sabine's Sunbird. Snowman (talk) 20:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.