Talk:Nona Gaprindashvili/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 09:46, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Copyvio check

• She was one of the contributing players of the USSR team that dominated the Women's Olympiads of the 1980s. She won 25 medals, including eleven team gold medals and nine individual gold medals is rather close to She dominated the women's Olympiads of the 1980s. She won as many as 25 medals, including 11 team gold medals and nine individual gold medals. from here, but there is perhaps a case that this is acceptable per WP:LIMITED. (It looks like this was added after your most recent edit.)
• No other issues found.

Images

• Both appropriately licensed. Placement is fine. Optionally, the caption for the second image could be expanded per the Establishing relevance to the article/Providing context for the picture/Drawing the reader into the article sections of WP:CAPTION.

Check for edit wars

• No ongoing edit wars. Evidence of constructive discussion on the talk page.

Sources

• Some names should be reformatted, e.g. Ray Keene should be Keene, Ray.
  • Fixed.
• Optionally, you could wikilink to Raymond Keene and Leonard Barden.
• Source missing from Netflix Settles 'Queen's Gambit' Defamation Suit Brought by Georgian Chess Grandmaster". 6 September 2022.
  • Added.
• I might question Soviet Life and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty as suitable sources for some articles, but they seems OK here.
• Inconsistency in whether sources are linked, e.g. Chess Life / Chess Life & Review but that's not a blocker to GA status
• Some websites are missing access and/or publication dates. I suggest running IABot to archive sites, to combat WP:LINKROT.
• What makes theweekinchess.com a reliable source?
  • Removed.
• What makes fragrantica.com a reliable source?
  • Removed.

Early life

• would often gather at the Gaprindashvili to play - missing word, e.g. "house"?
  • Fixed.
• Spot check on Because she was the girl of the family, she played goalkeeper during their football games - faithful to the source, but maybe we should rephrase "Because she was the girl of the family" so it doesn't look like this necessarily follows?
  • Reworded.

World champion and Grandmaster

• Women's Candidates Tournament - consider explaing what this is, although you may feel it's already obvious from what follows it in the text.
  • Reworded so the following part is clearer.
• Spot check on During her career, Gaprindashvili successfully competed in men's tournaments, winning amongst others the Hastings Challengers tournament in 1963/4 - no issues
• Briefly introduce Jennifer Shahade and Rusudan Goletiani in the text.
  • Done.
• Could probably omit "chess" from the Soviet chess player Alla Kushnir and the Georgian chess player Nana Alexandria, but retaining the word would be fine.
  • Removed.
• competed in men's tournaments - should this be rephrased to something like "tournaments open to men and women" or "sometimes competed against men"?
  • Reworded to "traditionally played by men"
• Consider wikilinking Hastings, as other cities mentione are linked.
  • The others are links to chess competitions. I redid the links so the targets are clearer.
• Consider expanding on "earn a norm" / "did not earn grandmaster norms" for people not familar with the terminology.
  • Added some clarification
• three norms totaling 24 games looks like it may be missing a bit of detail, but perhaps not.

Later career

• Many people will recognise Soviet Union and USSR as the same thing, but consider something like Soviet Union (USSR) at the first mention)
  • I've removed "USSR" instead.
• Spot check on She was one of the contributing players of the USSR team that dominated the Women's Olympiads of the 1980s - sourced to a table, but, I think, a fair interpretation of what the table shows.
• Spot check on She won 25 medals, including eleven team gold medals and nine individual gold medals. - not supported by the source cited, as far as I can see. (As mentioned above, it looks like this was added after your most recent edit.) The FIDE source mentioned above could be used.
  • Added.
    • FWIW, The Olimpbase table is indeed a source for the medal counts, as medal performances are highlighted by bright-colored type. But, I am happy that you have cited the FIDE article, as it is a better choice for a source for that information. Bruce leverett (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
• Gaprindashvili went on to train other young female chess players - Shouldn't "other" be omitted?
  • Done.
• the Women's World Senior Championship - consider adding the eligibility criteria, i.e. the age restriction
  • Added.
• Spot check on As of 2022, she has won the championship eight times. - no issues with faithfulness to source. Consider adding in that this includes the 2022 event.
  • Added.
• Spot check on In September 2022, Netflix settled with Gaprindashvili on undisclosed terms - no issues.

Play style and philosophy

• Feels to me like this section should be called "Playing style and philosophy" but it's OK (and perhaps more correct?) as-is.
• Is it possible to expand on "technical" in style of aggressive and technical play. If not, proably OK, but whilst I have a sense of what "aggressive" play is, I'm not sure about "technical"

Honors and awards

• Spot check on Tbilisi's chess palace is dedicated to Gaprindashvili No issues. Optional: Looks like Chess Palace is the name so could be capitalised, or the full name (Tbilisi Chess Palace and Alpine Club, I think) included. (This would mean moving the later redlink here).
  • Capitalized.
• her star was opened near the Chess Palace. reads slightly oddly - is this like a Hollywood Walk of Fame star? (Link to source is dead.)
  • The source uses the same wording without elaborating. It seems like a minor detail, so I removed it.

Infobox and lead

• She passed on her title seems a bit gentle; why not just "lost her title"?
  • Changed.
• Could maybe add something about her Women's World Senior Championship to the lead.
  • Added a mention.
• I'm not sure if adding the Netflix stuff to the lead would be undue. At a guess, a decent number of visits to the article might be as a result of readers following up on that story.
  • Added.

Great work, Thebiguglyalien. Only minor issues to address. Feel free to challenge any of my comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:03, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

BennyOnTheLoose, I've gone over your comments and I made most of the changes. In a few cases, I simply removed the sentence if it was an irrelevant detail. There are also cases where the sources don't give any more detail. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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