Talk:No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In)

Which came first?

The ad or the recording. I sort of recall that I was aware of the ad before the song, but after all these years I recollections might be wrong. Or perhaps the song became popular after the ad? Wschart (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the ad came first, and the recording by the T-Bones came later. Captain Quirk (talk) 18:25, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The TV spot came first, then Liberty Records producer Dave Pell had the idea of going into the studio and recording some songs from TV commercials to see if he could make a hit. During the same recording session, he also recorded music from a Chiquita banana spot, a potato chip spot, and a toilet tissue spot. Source: http://www.wreckingcrewfilm.com/afmcontracts/TBones,The_NoMatterWhatShape.pdf 76.184.233.45 (talk) 03:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mysteries to solve and then add to the article

"Victor Fledman" is listed on the union contract for this recording, but I can't find anything about him anywhere. The contract shows that he got paid 2dbl scale, same as top guitarist Tommy Tedesco and top drummer Hal Blaine, so this guy was not a nobody. He is one of the top three highest paid musicians on the record. He had to be in big demand to get that much money. Maybe it's a typo. Maybe that's really Victor Feldman, the pianist. He was doing sessions in LA at the time, I didn't find any other keyboardists on the union contract, and there's a keyboard on the song.

Tommy Tedesco was probably lead guitar since he got paid at least twice as much as any other guitarist on the union contract, but that's just my gut feeling and I can't cite my gut, so I just listed him as guitar.

Buddy Clark was probably Walter "Buddy" Clark Jr., 1929 - 1999, but I can't find anything to prove that, other than material indicating that he was doing session work in LA at the time. He got paid double scale, so he was in demand, not a nobody. There's a Buddy Clark on Wikipedia, but he died 16 years before this song was recorded.

My gut says that Evelyn Roberts did the female vocal, but I can't cite my gut. I can't find anything about her anywhere. The only other female on the union contract was Carol Kaye, and I can't find anything indicating that she ever did a vocal. I've always wondered who did the female vocal on that track.

If the history of Top 40 music of the 1960s and early 1970s is your thing, go blow your mind! Read the AFM contracts on the Wrecking Crew film web site at http://www.wreckingcrewfilm.com/afmcontracts.php and watch the whole DVD including the bonus material. So much of what we believed about those records is wrong. So often, they weren't actually recorded by band members credited on the records or seen in concerts or on TV. And that's not a rumor or hearsay. It's in black and white on those AFM contracts and you can hear it directly from some of those credited musicians on the DVD.

76.184.233.45 (talk) 02:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some genius linked "Evelyn Roberts" to the English actor (d. 1962). This is probably the Evelyn Roberts from the union manifest, but she has no article, and doesn't have enough WP:N to warrant one. Somebody who made some kind of living in the Hollywood-LA scene, but not enough for an article. http://www.thehistorymakers.org/biography/evelyn-freeman-roberts-41 Tapered (talk) 06:00, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Guess again. She IS in Wikipedia. Don't know if she's singing or arranging. There are vocalists on this track. Tapered (talk) 07:25, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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