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List of covers?

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Standards like this are covered by countless bands. I'm not sure there's anything particularly special about the bands mentioned here, except perhaps the Fureys if they popularized the song to a broader audience. I'm beginning a list of "other covers."


I agree with you about this, but perhaps we should do away with the majority of both lists altogether. As you said, it is a standard and been covered numerous times - too numerous to mention unless they are really of note. Also what's this about the "antidote to Willie McBride"? I can't even find that on Google! A mysterious song no one's heard of yet is called here "the most famour[sic] being 'the antidote to willie mcbride'" --- add to this that it's so mysterious (yet famour) that no one knows the lyrics (true signs of a great parody) and those who do know them won't give them away. Presumably the song's never actually been sung. Somebody remove that.Wellesradio 01:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Wellesradio[reply]

I removed it myself since I just realized that it was irrelevant to the section on WHO Willie Mc Bride was anyway. Wellesradio 01:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Wellesradio[reply]

[[im going to remove the ridiculous drivel regarding the location of willie mcbrides grave, what kind of nerd cares anyway? the commenary about the graveyards in france being grass and not sand is the stupidest thing ive ever read, i mean the alternate title of the song and part of the lyrics is 'the green fields of france' what kind of idiot misintereprets a song and then makes a misinformed yet arrogant commentary on it? not much bloody integrity on this site if you let know-it-all chumps like that have their way, and not only that, also defend their petty efforts. the song lyrics go 'in mute witness stand' not 'here in the sand' a simple google search reveals the veracity of my statement, and so i will remove the offending editorial.]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.110.11 (talk) 01:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Willie McBride's Reply

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Why is some of the lyric to Willie McBride's Reply quoted, when none of the lyric for No Man's Land are quoted? The article is about No Man's Land, not Willie McBride's Reply. I think it's fair enough to mention that Willie McBride's Reply exists, but unless the lyric to No Man's Land is quoted, I don't see why the lyric to Willie McBride's Reply should be quoted, as it imbalances the article. --Theresonator (talk) 01:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above concern. It is absolutely worth mentioning the *existence* of the "Reply" (by Stephen L Suffett) because it is an example of one of the most important aspects of folk music - that of modifying and adapting existing music to a new purpose. HOWEVER, that said, transcribing the lyric to the "Reply" really stands out as a political act. The original song has become a standard, as shown by how many times it's been covered. The "Reply" is a secondary work that, regardless of whether your agree with its sentiment, cannot be said to have the same literary quality as the original lyrics (especially the verse that was chosen for transcription). That is why I have deleted the lyric to the reply and leaving only a mention of Suffett's work. Saffi Anne (talk) 17:55, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also retitled the heading from "Willie McBride's Reply" to "The Folk Process", leaving open the section to mentions of any additional instances of modification. Saffi Anne (talk) 18:33, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for making the changes. It struck me as odd that the only lyric quoted in an article about an anti-war song were pro-war in nature.--Theresonator (talk) 12:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find any usable sources online for either Stephen L Suffet or "Willie McBride's Reply," so I went ahead and deleted that section on the assumption that the musician and (unreleased) song are non-notable. It's certainly interesting from the "folk process" perspective, but interesting-ness alone does not a satisfied guideline make. If anyone's got a source that discusses the singer, the song, or its relationship to "No Man's Land," then I'm all for its inclusion, but the existing "reference" was just a link to the lyrics and MIDI file.
Unless enough sources turn up to warrant a whole section (possibly a "Contrasting viewpoints" section), I'd also suggest that "Willie McBride's Reply" be listed in the "Cover versions and recordings" section (which could itself stand to be pruned). Splitting out a "Derived works" list from the "Cover versions" list might also be advisable, since several of the listed songs appear to not be straightforward covers. --Fullobeans (talk) 22:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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