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Why choose this name?

Shoshone mythology seems to have several names for the little people/dwarves. Nimerigar seems to be the least common - in fact I can't find anything that looks like a reliable source for it. On the other hand, I see a number of sources for "nynymbi", eg [1]. Ninumbee is also found [2] as are other variations. Another book [3] goes into some detail about the little people calling them "Nimimbe" while this academic book[4] uses "Nin'am-bea". And this reliable source[5] has: Ninimbe Little People of the western United States. Etymology: Shoshoni (Uto-Aztecan), "mountain man." Variant names: Nimerigar (Arapaho Algonquian), Ninimhcb, Ninimpi, Ninumbo (Bannock/Uto-Aztecan), Nu'numbi (Northernt Paiute/Uto-Aztecan), Toyanum (Goshute/Uto Aztecan), U-nu'-pits (Paiute/Uto-Aztecan).

So this article needs a new title and a bunch of redirects - and expansion. Dougweller (talk) 16:09, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Should Hawaiians be considered Native Americans?

I personally don't think so, as the paragraph at the end does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.35.108 (talk) 14:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article name - possible to resolve?

This is a mess, so many variants. Another from a University press book. "They were the homes of the Ninnimbe, the Little Demons or Little People. Here are some former beliefs about them. ^Thhe Little People were two or three feet high, strong and fear-Jjess. They wore clothing of goatskin and always carried a large quiver of arrows on their backs. They were stealthy stalkers, expert hunters, and good fighters, also, but they sometimes fell prey to eagles. Their poisoned arrows, shot with deadly aim, picked off many of the early Shoshonis. Their arrows were invisible."[6]

And in Ideology and Identity: Western Shoshoni "Cannibal" Myth as Ethnonational Narrative Author(s): Richard O. Clemmer Source: Journal of Anthropological Research, Vol. 52, No. 2 (Summer, 1996), pp. 207-223I found "A fragment of a legend about cannibals who were also giants and lived area of Jarbidge, Nevada, survives in current Shoshoni lore, and human-eating giants are recorded for the Owens Valley Paiute by (1936a:424-25) and for the Southern Ute by Lowie (1924:74). In stories, "water babies"---Nunumbi or Nenewe in Shoshoni--drown the giants." Interesting that this is an article about a "white cannibal" myth. We don't have an article on this. Doug Weller talk 11:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Native languages of the Americas website

I think we can use this as a reliable source. See this NYTimes Magazine article[7] and [8],[9]. Their page on this myth gives various spellings.Legendary Native American Figures: Nimerigar (Nunumbi) Doug Weller talk 11:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zeisberger

Zeisberger did not wrote anything about pygmies or little people in the graves/mounds. But if he did, please prove it with original sources. 46.223.170.144 (talk) 21:45, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]