Talk:Nilofar Suhrawardy
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[edit]Search results are not sources, nor is her book listing enough - find a source that reviews it or something then you've got a source. the last one the "All india" one looked good, but she wrote it, it's by her not about her, big difference. MPJ-DK (talk) 19:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you think third party sources are - but an article by her isn't 3rd party and a blog isn't a Reliable source. MPJ-DK (talk) 20:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
(Submitter's comments:)From Third Party Sources
http://nuclearagendas.blogspot.com/2009/02/terrorism-tainted-approach-july-2008.html
NILOFAR SUHRAWARDY is a well known freelance journalist who has, at different periods, written extensively for national papers. Her book Ayodhya Without The Communal Stamp, In the name of Indian Secularism, was listed as the sixth most popular book on website.
http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article1033.html
The author is a well-known freelance journalist, who spent several years in the US and specialised in communication studies and nuclear diplomacy. Her book, Ayodhya without the Communal Stamp in the Name of Indian Secularlism, is the sixth most popular book on the website -www.allbookstores.com/popular
http://www.allbookstores.com/popular/
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mp/2006/12/04/stories/2006120400570100.htm
(this article from Hindu is also written by a third party (Rana of Hindu. It is not written by nilofar suhrawardy)
her book is listed among the top 13 books among several third party blogs: http://in.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A3llmkR8.O1JsggAGyi7HAx.?p=ayodhya+without+communal+stamp+nilofar+suhrawardy+top+13+books&y=Search&fr=FP-tab-web-t912&fr2=sb-top&rd=r1
- (Response to comment by submitter above) The first source (at nuclearagendas.blogspot.com) is a blog, and therefore not a reliable source. It is also by the subject, so it is not useful to prove notability, as that needs to be proven via third-party reliable sources talking about the subject. Source 2, at www.mainstreamweekly.net, is again by the subject, so not useful for notability purposes. Source 3, from allbookstores.com is just a list which shows her as being popular via sales, again not considered a criteria for notability. The article in the hindu may be considered somewhat a reliable source, but it's an interview, so I'm not sure about that. And being listed as popular in blogs, is again not useful from a notability context. The article needs reliable sources which discuss the subject of her works. Some examples of those would be news articles discussing her, or critical reviews (from professional reviewers, not blogs) that discuss her articles. Hope this helps! Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 18:10, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- The user (now Chotee) has made some additions to the article. I still don't think that they prove notability, though: articles by her don't prove notability, articles about her prove notability. I'm going to decline the request soon if I don't see any objections. Regards, The Earwig (User | Talk | Contributions) 23:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I've complete reformatted the article and removed lots of peacock language. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- The user (now Chotee) has made some additions to the article. I still don't think that they prove notability, though: articles by her don't prove notability, articles about her prove notability. I'm going to decline the request soon if I don't see any objections. Regards, The Earwig (User | Talk | Contributions) 23:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
More sources
[edit]Moved from my talk page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Listed below a few other pieces she has written on controversial issues. last is a blogspot of one claims to have been inspired by her!
- http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2003%20Opinion%20Editorials/October/28%20o/Have%20Bush%20and%20Blair%20sold%20their%20anti-Iraq%20argument%20Nilofar%20Suhrawardy.htm
- http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/print.aspx?artid=ZN8U8%7C9pZ38=
- http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/print.aspx?artid=BjaPcjiZCS4=
- http://www.indiarightsonline.com/Sabrang/gender.nsf/9ad8c95d52b7d568e5256abc00320f4c/d4e9f15e91ed9b82e5256f7e003f3351?OpenDocument
- http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?title=The%20%E2%80%98other%E2%80%99%20Gandhi%20has%20made%20a%20fool%20of%20himself&artid=W344yyXLmZU=&type=
- http://www.expressindia.com/news/election/fullestory.php?type=ie&content_id=42061
- http://www.arabnews.com/?page=9§ion=0&article=10065&d=25&m=10&y=2001&pix=community.jpg&category=Features
- http://www.unitedsikhs.org/news/10-02-2004-03.htm
- http://stringersworld.blogspot.com/2008/03/great-failures.html
- chotee Chotee (talk) 16:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- These look great! Except the last one perhaps - blogs are not counted as "reliable" sources. Could you add them to the article? If possible, you can use inline citations. You can see how I've put these in with the <ref> tags. When all these sources are in, I think we could remove the "needs additional citations" message from the top. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:46, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]It's completely inappropriate to have an Amazon shopping link in the body of the article for every book mentioned. See WP:EL.
I've removed those and lots of unsubstantiated claims about her work. I also removed mentions and explanations of specific works from the lead section. Stuff like this is too much detail for the lead. This article obviously needs a lot of work and seems to spend a lot of time listing trivial information about the subject's specific accomplishments. If anyone disagrees with changes I've made, feel free to discuss here.
Thanks! Skeletor3000 (talk) 17:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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