Talk:Nigora

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Please also note that our Terms of Use state that "you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." An editor who contributes as part of his or her paid employment is required to disclose that fact. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:19, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Update

Moved from my talk page

– Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:42, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I read through some of the pages you suggested on my Talk page. It looks like it would be a wise decision to rewrite the article, and not include verbatim information taken from the ANGBA website, as this would require a donation license notification to be posted on the site. This could cause unwanted changes to be made to specific information, which should not be changed outside of ANGBA. The article was due for a rewrite at any rate, as new changes are taking place regarding registering/recording Nigoras with the ANGBA; There was an error made in the current Countryside article written by Bessie Miller stating the registry would open in the spring of 2014, it should have said by the spring of 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irthumper (talk • contribs) 12:34, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Irthumper, it seems you are still far from understanding how we do things here. Wikipedia content is based on what is reported by independent reliable sources; in this particular case, that means sources unconnected to you or your association. Essentially, we simply do not care what the ANGBA says about itself or the goat; what we are interested in is what other, independent sources have said. That isn't much, as far as I've been able to establish.

I agree that it was a good decision to rewrite the article – that's why I did it! As you've seen, I've added six independent sources to the page, and written content based on what they say. It's unfortunate if Bessie Miller has got a date wrong (please read about WP:Verifiability, not truth); if you are able to cite independent reliable sources that give a different date, please do so here, on this page. If there is information you think should be added to the article and you can cite independent reliable sources that support it, please mention it here, on this page. But do please understand that your association does not have any right to control the content of the page, nor should it attempt to do so. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:02, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rebuttal: No need for you to be brusque. You said this: "I agree that it was a good decision to rewrite the article – that's why I did it! As you've seen, I've added six independent sources to the page, and written content based on what they say." Let me ask you this, did you contact these sources and ask them what THEIR source of information was?

Irthumper (talk) 19:49, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, Irthumper, I did not; nor was there any need or reason for me to do so. Please read WP:RS to understand why not. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:19, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: So you based your reason for using those particular sources on this: "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view)." Thus, for instance, You would deem that the author of the Countryside magazine article you cited (or any of the other authors) would be considered a "reliable third party source" of information regarding the Nigora breed, and therefore more qualified to write/edit the Nigora article?

Irthumper (talk) 20:35, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]