Talk:Nico Rosberg
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Race Starts
[edit]It says 19 in the stats, but when you go to edit it it says 1. Strange.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.155.38.116 (talk) 00:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Somebody, for some reason, had vandalised the template. I fixed it. Should be 2 race starts for Rosberg now, yeah? (in a few hours from now that is) --Mal 01:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Trivia
[edit]It says in the trivia that he has started more races than his father. This needs clearing up, as his father started 100+ Grands Prix to Nico's 2. Is this statement to include karts, junior formulae, and formula 1?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.154.54.16 (talk) 19:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- I believe that is the meaning of this commonly quoted statistic. 4u1e—Preceding undated comment added 12:49, 5 June 2006
Citizenship?
[edit]I am not sure but isn't Nico Rosberg a dubble citizen both Finnish and German? User: Dr.Poison—Preceding undated comment added 21:45, 20 March 2006
- I think he competes as a German for the purposes of F1. Perhaps a note in his bio would be appropriate if its true about his dual nationality. --Mal 05:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
- He does have the passports of both countries, and therefore isn't solely German despite competing under the German flag. I changed nationality to "German/Finnish" (this way around because he is registered German in F1, even though F comes before G in the alphabet). --HJV 15:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- I thought Germany doesn't accept dual citizenship. Am I wrong? Švitrigaila 12:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- In Germany every law has exceptions and exceptions from these exceptions ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.255.210 (talk) 14:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- I thought Germany doesn't accept dual citizenship. Am I wrong? Švitrigaila 12:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Youngest fastest lap?
[edit]I've just moved some words on Nico across from Keke Rosberg, which seem better suited to being here. There's a suggestion in them that Nico was the youngest driver to set a fastest lap. Anyone know if this right? 4u1e
- That's my understanding, yes. But it would take some detailed reading of statistics to be certain. Adrian M. H. 18:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Does this count as a reference for the Williams aptitude test score? http://www.totalf1.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4527 The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Wikimuku on 27th August 2006
- No. Because it is a forum discussion. The aptitude test result was widely reported, notably in Autosport's interview with Rosberg in Spring 2006. I am not sure of the issue number. Adrian M. H. 18:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Citizenship
[edit]I'm not trying to cause trouble, but can anyone point me to any evidence that Nico Rosberg has Finnish citizenship (as opposed to heritage)?
It seems to be 'common knowledge' that he has dual German-Finnish citizenship. We know he has German citizenship, since he holds a German passport (evidenced by racing as a German in F1 - FIA rules state that the nationality of a driver in FIA world championships is that of their passport). That does not mean he doesn't have a Finnish passport as well (I assume he would have to choose one to race under), but now that I've looked, I haven't found a clear statement anywhere from a reliable source that he actually holds Finnish citizenship. The articles on German nationality law and Finnish nationality law suggest that he is entitled to both, although the possibility of losing his Finnish citizenship at the age of 22 exists.
I've edited the infobox to remove Finnish from the F1 infobox - the infobox gives the nationality the driver races under, and Rosberg races under the German flag in F1. The text should of course refer to both nationalities. Hope someone can point me in the direction of some good sources. Cheers. 4u1e 10:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- An anon user has added this ref, an interview in which Rosberg seems to make it clear that he has two nationalities. It's not quite watertight, since he may not have been using the terms in their strictest sense, but it's pretty good. The nationality in the F1 infobox, however, remains as German because FIA rules don't allow drivers to compete under dual nationalities and the FIA unambiguously list him as German for this purpose. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 17:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
His racing license was Finnish until F3. I recall a FBMW race podium with Finnish flag and anthem, but have not found any documentation of this.
He was born in Germany but has lived in Monaco since 2-week-old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.44.119 (talk) 12:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- More to the point, a person is a Finnish citizen automatically if one of his/her parents is Finnish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.128.246.133 (talk) 14:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Not exactly. Prior to 2003, you would have lost your Finnish citizenship if you had any other citizenship. Nico was born well before 2003 and would have had German citizenship at the time, meaning no Finnish citizenship. 68.117.88.143 (talk) 16:51, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- According to [1], Rosberg can keep his Finnish citizenship, if he fulfilled the criteria of someone "who have submitted a declaration of retention of Finnish citizenship between the ages of 18 and 21 to the appropriate authorities in Finland or to a Finland diplomatic mission overseas." [2] also lists Rosberg as having dual nationality. As Finland is in the European Union, then according to [3], Rosberg can have dual German/Finnish citizenship. Therefore, dual nationality. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 11:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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Immediate Failures
[edit]It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria
-It contains copyright infringements
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[edit]Lede
[edit]- Is it worth mentioning why Team Rosberg is a thing?
- 2016 championship is duplink
General
[edit]- 2015 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Lewis Hamilton, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain Grand Prix and some other duplinks
- no copyvio found
- He graduated with an average grade of 1.2 in 2002. - might need a little context...
- Rosberg raced for TeamMBM.com (Mercedes-Benz McLaren) for the 2000 season. - weird seaofblue here. Why is there a team name and also constructors?
- Rosberg was paid £500,000 by Williams[42] and was the first son of a former world champion to race in Formula One since Damon Hill in the 1999 championship.[59] - not a fan of the mid sentence refs
- points is linked too, late, should be at: "At the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix, Rosberg scored his first career points with a seventh-place finish."
- Could we move the first image in 2013–2016 to the right? The see also template looks a bit weird to me.
- Could we add another subsection to 2013–2016? Perhaps 2013-15 and 2016, as that's the most important for this article.
- To win the Drivers' Championship, Rosberg needed finish in the first three places regardless of whether Hamilton was first or second. - probably needs a better wording
GA Review
[edit]- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
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- a (major aspects): b (focused):
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Comments
[edit]- Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definitely not mandatory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
- I'm going to pass this one, there's a few comments above; but nothing to stop a progression. Well done. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- ... that Nico Rosberg announced his retirement from Formula One motor racing five days after winning the 2016 Formula One World Championship? Source: Nico Rosberg announces shock F1 retirement days after world title win: 'I am on the peak, so this feels right': The Daily Telegraph
- ALT1:... that Nico Rosberg switched from a Finnish to a German racing license after the 2003 Formula 3 Euro Series to make it easier for him to obtain major sponsorship agreements? Source: Shedding a father's shadow: the new GP2 champion's route to the top: Helsingin Sanomat & Hamilton sur la nationalité de Rosberg : une polémique inutile et pas nouvelle: Eurosport
- ALT2:... that at age 12, Nico Rosberg became the youngest champion of a French national karting series? Source: Nice one, Son: The Sunday Times
- ALT3:... that racing driver Nico Rosberg is the second son of a Formula One World Champion to win the title himself? Source: Like father, like son: Another Rosberg wins F1 title: Associated Press
- ALT4 ... that Nico Rosberg was persuaded to sign a contract to drive for ART Grand Prix in the 2005 GP2 Series with a sales presentation? Source: Riddle of Rosberg; Complicated and mercurial, Rosberg remains undeniably gifted behind the wheel: NBC Sports
- Reviewed: WOLB
Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC).
- Article is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 3 May, nominated on same day), long enough (c.35k characters), and article is within policy
- ALT0 is short enough, interesting to a broad audience (it was a shock, and first champion to retire for 23 years), and well-cited. ALT3 is also short enough, interesting and well cited. ALT1 isn't interesting because many drivers change their racing licences, ALT2 won't appeal to a broad audience in my opinion, and ALT4 is dull too- the point of sales people is to sell things. But happy to approve ALT0 and ALT3
- QPQ done
- Overall, this nomination passes, congratulations. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Rosberg's education in Monaco
[edit]I've tried to verify the fact that mention Rosberg in International School of Monaco and google some sources, cause you know, i'm bored. here is the revision that added that fact. The second source mentioned 'an international school in Monaco', [4] and does not refer to International School of Monaco directly (and it only mentions the fact in passing, as this article is not a transcript from a interview or something). My problem is, I cannot find any other source that predates this revision (to prevent circular reporting), and thus I cannot verify this fact. Someone please help me... Klrfl Talk! 13:43, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I've also found an article on Eurosport, which was published back in 2014 [5] that mentions he studied in 'an international school in the south of France'. Although the article predates the revision I linked above, the statement is even more vague that 'an international school in Monaco'. Klrfl Talk! 13:46, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Personal Life section.
[edit]Seems somewhat oddly written? It's well cited but just reads poorly to me. There also seems to be a huge amount of detail. 2A00:23EE:19B0:8C3F:38DB:C98A:5031:B21E (talk) 08:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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