Talk:Nicknames of Vancouver
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Proposals for addition
[edit]- This nickname has been popping up in local media over the last few years:
- No Fun City[1]- a name arising from controversial regulatory frameworks for liquor licenses and live music venues in the city.
More examples of use: [1], Reuters article on lessons learned from 2010 olympics
Thoughts? The Interior 19:58, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've heard of it, but it could be a label for any city that is considered a bore or has a dull night-life, I've heard the tern No Fun City applied to other cities as well. -- Ϫ 16:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- User:Herman Lumpster added the below entry on Sept. 23, moved it here for discussion. The Interior (talk) 19:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Vangroovy [2] - If Vancouver is said to have a lax attitude towards drugs (see Vansterdam,above), then combining "hippie" era slang for positive vibes is a natural.
- Good reference, and Google search show quite a few hits. Would rewrite entry for tone though, don't like the conditional. The Interior (talk) 19:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just to note that Bellingham WA's page has had a dispute on and off about "the City of Subdued Excitement". And btw Vancouver was "groovy" in the Jazz Age, long before the hippie era.Skookum1 (talk) 06:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- YVR Even though the airport is in the city of Richmond, the airport code often stands in for the name of the city itself synecdochically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.177.21 (talk) 05:03, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
References for the discussion above
[edit]- ^ Fylan, Kevin. "No Pressure, London - "No Fun City" Shows How It's Done". Reuters. Retrieved 17 August 2010.
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UNDUE and SYNTH/POV re "Hongcouver" on another article
[edit]Please compare this draft version of a full section on "Hongcouver"on a draft geo-fork from Chinese Canadians in British Columbia#Hongcouver, which I took out the quasi-academic phrasings "such and so said this or that derisive/pejorative"; the result is clearly a POV diatribe/thesis and a soapbox; and uses obscure graduate theses as cites, which I t hink is questionable; and given that the term is not even used in Vancouver except when repeating the claims made about it. Search results for Vancouver media are:
- this search of the Vancouver Sun website re "our community, which is still influenced by “casual racism” exemplified by the common usage of terms like “ Hongcouver” to describe Vancouver.“Apologies are symbolic, but empty symbolism is worthless,” said Yu." - even though it is NOT in common use; though it is often claimed that it is....
- a ten year search of FPInfoMart has ZERO results,
- there is only one result on The Province website - about the blog author who uses "Hongcouver" for the title of his blog after moving to the city, long after the term and its controvery was a long-dead issue. Who's keeping it alive and why aren't the people being accused of creating it and continuing to use it (which they don't)....
- The Georgia Straight site has no results for the term
- nor does The Vancouver Courier
- nor the Westender
- The Tyee's five results are mostly from comment sections there, alluding to use of the term, but not in a deprecatory way to Chinese people directly, but to the term itself; these are ironic usage
- the Vancouver Observer has three results only.
That's hardly "still in common use"......so how is it possible to claim that it is still in common use? Or that it is significant enough to warrant repetition of ethno-political claims about it as a very overbuilt section with a blatant POV format and purpose? Never mind, I already know the answer; "verifiability"is claimed to superseded NPOV as a guideline....~even though the claims made in "verifiable"sources are not all that verifiable, such as the claim that Hongcouver shirts were sold "everywhere" and that it remains in common use; it really only remains in common use by those seeking to make and issue of it and hype it as a sign of "white" racism. Skookum1 (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Merge with Vancouver article
[edit]Hello, I have noticed that this is a fairly short article, and is well within the scope of the Vancouver article. Maybe a merge would be good?DoggieTimesTwo (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)