Talk:Nick Schmaltz

Nick Schmaltz was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
July 4, 2022	Good article nominee	Not listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Nick Schmaltz's older brother and younger sister would team up against him when they played basement hockey as children?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that on March 5, 2022, Nick Schmaltz set an Arizona Coyotes record with seven points in one ice hockey game? Source: Schmaltz put up a team record 7 points in a game against the Ottawa Senators to help the Coyotes complete a wild 8-5 comeback victory at Gila River Arena on Saturday.
- ALT1: ... that Nick Schmaltz scored the game-winning goal that sent the North Dakota Fighting Hawks to the 2016 NCAA Division I Men's Ice Hockey Tournament finals with only 60 seconds left to play? Source: With sudden-death overtime and all of the heartbreak that can come with it a mere 60 seconds away, the Fighting Hawks' vaunted “CBS” line put the ghosts back in their graves. Sophomore Nick Schmaltz grabbed a loose puck in front of DU goalie Tanner Jaillet and slid it into an empty net with 57 seconds remaining, giving the Fighting Hawks a 3-2 lead.
- ALT2: ... that Nick Schmaltz's older brother and younger sister would team up against him when they played basement hockey as children? Source: There were two hockey nets at each end of the room. The siblings would often play while wearing roller blades, and the matchup was often Kylie and Jordan against Nick.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charlie Cytron-Walker

5x expanded by GhostRiver (talk). Self-nominated at 16:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

@GhostRiver: Nice 5x expansion, new enough when nominated, well sourced and within policy. Hooks are mentioned in the article and cited inline. I like ALT2 best (they must have had an amazing basement), but it should have a slight copyedit ("as children") would work better. ALT0 is fine too (although the link to Point (ice hockey) isn't awesome and replacing it by mentioning two goals and five assists might work too - any thoughts?). ALT1 doesn't fascinate me as much (late winning goals, while exciting, are not uncommon overall). (almost there, just some polishing of the hooks required). —Kusma (talk) 16:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Kusma Thanks for picking this up! I agree that ALT1 is probably the weakest. I added "as children" to ALT2. As for ALT0, from a purely semantic perspective, I'd rather not change it to "two goals and five assists", because while it's technically true that he was the first Coyote to do that, the record he was setting was seven points by any combination – nobody had scored six goals and one assist in a game, three and four, seven and zero and so forth. — Ghost River 19:51, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @GhostRiver: I've removed the duplicate children from ALT2. I prefer that but accept your explanation for ALT0; happy for the prep builder to choose either ALT2 or ALT0. —Kusma (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, speaking as someone with admittedly limited knowledge about the NHL, I think ALT2 may have broader appeal. As someone with an interest in sports, I do find ALT0 interesting but it's really targeted towards sports buffs, whereas ALT2 may be eye-catching even to non-sports fans, if only due to the mention of "basement hockey". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:59, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, forgot to tick: —Kusma (talk) 08:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted ALT2 to Prep 3. Z1720 (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Nick Schmaltz/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Z1720 (talk · contribs) 23:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I will begin reviewing this article shortly. Please ping me if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 23:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments:

Prose

" He played four seasons of organized hockey, meanwhile, " I don't think meanwhile is necessary here, and can be deleted.
"Several members of the Blackhawks'" I think this should be Blackhawks's, per MOS:'S
"finishing 19 points behind the Colorado Avalanche in the race for the second Western Conference wild card spot," I'm not sure this is necessary in this bio article, and I think it can be removed as off-topic
"By the time that the 2019–20 NHL season" -> "When the 2019–20 NHL season..."
"After receiving a hit to the head during an exhibition game against the Vegas Golden Knights,[56] however, Schmaltz missed the entirety of the Coyotes' postseason run," -> "In an exhibition game against the Vegas Golden Knights, he received a hit to the head and missed the entirety of the Coyotes' postseason run" to tighten up the prose
"record for the most in the Challenge," what does this mean? What is referred to with "Challenge"?
The "Personal life" does not really talk about Schmaltz's personal life, but rather talks about his family's accomplishments. I'm not sure this section is needed. Is there any information on his relationship status, philanthropy work, or what he does during the off season?

Sources

No concerns with source formatting.
No concerns with the reliability of sources
No concerns with plagiarism - earwig check

Source check

Version reviewed: [1]
Sources checked: 1, 5, 16, 26, 54, 60, 77, 83
No concerns in the source check

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I am going to put this on hold until the prose concerns are resolved. Please ping me when ready. Z1720 (talk) 01:13, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A follow-up ping last week did not yield a response, so I am going to close this GAN. Once the above are addressed the nominator can re-nominate this article. Feel free to ping me when it is nominated again. Z1720 (talk) 16:55, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.