Talk:Nibiru
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Neberu
[edit]Should this be on this page? Nibiru and Neberu are two different words. -Vincetti (talk) 23:48, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- Neberu is an alternate spelling of Nibiru. Serendipodous 00:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
- I edited the accompanying Dab page w/ an ed summary saying in relevant part
- ... demote mis-spelling to see-also instead of deleting, giving benefit of doubt to colleague who may just be guessing that name was inspired by "Niburu")
- and Seren responded on my talk page that
- "Neberu" is an alternate spelling of "Nibiru" (Babylonian cuneiform did not have vowels) and "Neberu" redirects to the "Nibiru" page. So people searching for "Neberu" would end up at "Nibiru".
- (Just for the record, i'm PDSure that "hav[ing] no vowels" could be highly misleading about that extinct writing system: that describes Hebrew and i'd guess Phoenician well, but our article Babylonian will probably make clear that the Bab. cune. represented specific single-syllable words, via rather spare pictographs, and the literate realized that those words were likely to represent other syllables that had different the vowels. I'd bet even (the rare) literate monolingual Bab'ns thot of what we call vowels as just easy routes for getting ones tongue from one meaningful part of a word to the next, thot no about ambiguities than we do about to, too, two, and tu as in "et tu Brute?", or having and halving.)
- (Just for the record, i'm PDSure that "hav[ing] no vowels" could be highly misleading about that extinct writing system: that describes Hebrew and i'd guess Phoenician well, but our article Babylonian will probably make clear that the Bab. cune. represented specific single-syllable words, via rather spare pictographs, and the literate realized that those words were likely to represent other syllables that had different the vowels. I'd bet even (the rare) literate monolingual Bab'ns thot of what we call vowels as just easy routes for getting ones tongue from one meaningful part of a word to the next, thot no about ambiguities than we do about to, too, two, and tu as in "et tu Brute?", or having and halving.)
- "Neberu" is an alternate spelling of "Nibiru" (Babylonian cuneiform did not have vowels) and "Neberu" redirects to the "Nibiru" page. So people searching for "Neberu" would end up at "Nibiru".
- Anyway, transliterations of dead languages into alphabetic form (and i see the use of alephbeth in the article namespace has been reduced to the Rdr Hebrew alephbeth) mean that variant spellings like Neberu are only of interest in the contexts where both spellings are used for the same sense of the word. The fact that the two spellings stem from the same word is of no relevance, except in the contexts where both spellings are known to be used. The task of Dab'g Neberu is far simpler than that of Dab'g Niburu, and the complication of handling both tasks on one page is a major abuse of users who type "Neberu", and a smaller but still significant abuse of those who type "Niburu". I'm glad to understand what Seren was trying to get at, and gladder still for impetus to work out the detailed solution of the two slightly overlapping Dab tasks, which i now proceed to implement.
--Jerzy•t 07:40 & 09:47, 7 September 2015
- I edited the accompanying Dab page w/ an ed summary saying in relevant part
"Nibirum" listed at Redirects for discussion
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Nibirum and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 7#Nibirum until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2022 (UTC)