Talk:New Orleans

Spanish pronunciation

There is no reason to add the Spanish pronunciation for a U.S. city in a state with no special status for Spanish. The French pronunciation, yes, but unless this is New Mexico, both the Spanish name and pronunciation are inappropriate here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.71.234 (talk) 02:42, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

ya I wondered the same thing. I was wondering maybe it is there because it was given by France to Spain but ya I removed it because it’s not relevant. Thepharoah17 (talk) 21:02, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2023

Add the Romani article to other languages.

https://rmy.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans 76.174.235.156 (talk) 04:30, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I believe they're looking for the article to be added to the Wikidata entry, in the section for languages the article is written in. I personally don't have the permissions to do this but I'll open this back up for someone who does. Tollens (talk) 17:15, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: if they after its addition to wikidata, then they can request it on wikidata.org. M.Bitton (talk) 17:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2023

Editing international routes to reflect 2023 instead of 2018. 2603:8000:C33E:1671:A415:1FFD:CD1:3034 (talk) 01:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 02:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect information about largest city in south

New Orleans was not the largest city in the south from antebellum until ww2. Baltimore was larger for most of that time Matteow101 (talk) 16:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Q for locals

commons:File:Slave dealers in 1861 New Orleans city directory Dul1.ark 13960 t5n880n68-seq 501.jpg

Hello all - the streets that appear in the slave dealers section of this page from the 1861 New Orleans city directory--is that what you would now call New Orleans Central Business District? Please and thanks. jengod (talk) 23:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

The majority look to be (Baronne, Gravier, Perdido Streets). However Chartres & Esplanade is the other side of the French Quarter at the border with Marigny. -- Infrogmation (talk) 23:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Moreau Street looks to be an old name for lower Chartres Street, Marigny or lower (I'd have to check for exact details, but not the Central Business District or CBD). So most were in the CBD, then called "The American Quarter". Those in the downriver sections may possibly have been more oriented towards the area's still significant Francophone population. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the help @Infrogmation and for the nice note!

per this article I'm pretty sure there was actually a law against trading within the French Quarter (except, for whatever reason, in something called the Exchange Alley).

So! Just to clarify bc my head is swimming with unfamiliar geography:

• Barrone, Gravier, Perdido - "in what is now the New Orleans Central Business District"
• Chartres (orig Moreau) & Esplanade - "just outside the French Quarter in the district then known as the American Quarter and today called Faubourg Marigny" (??)

Thanks again! jengod (talk) 00:44, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Right, Baronne, Gravier, Perdido in the New Orleans Central Business District ("CBD") - that's what was formerly called the "American Quarter". Sorry I was not as clear as I should have been with that. The CBD/Old American Quarter is upriver from the French Quarter. Esplanade Avenue is a somewhat wide street with a median (locally called a "neutral ground"), at the downriver edge (opposite end) of the French Quarter, the boundary with Marigny section of town. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, I believe in 1860 it was already "Chartres Street" in the French Quarter, but when the street crossed Esplanade Avenue into the Marigny the name changed to "Moreau". Continuing streets changing names in different neighborhoods used to be fairly common in the city; periodically the city council would order some streets renamed as continuations of other street names in an attempt to make things slightly less confusing. A valuable resource is the list of New Orleans street name changes compiled by the WPA on the New Orleans Public Library website: [1] -- Infrogmation (talk) 01:01, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Lovely. I'm sorted (mostly) and I'll go check out that WPA thing shortly. I did an article on Theophilus Freeman, Northrop's N.O. slave jailor but didn't pay much attention to his location. However I just found an image of Chartres & Esplanade circa 1866 (where at least four of these characters traded over the years) so maybe I'd better circle back! TY so much. jengod (talk) 01:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Historic marker for Solomon Northup of Twelve Years a Slave is at Esplanade & Chartres. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:32, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2024

Add ancestries to demographics section:

https://data.census.gov/table?q=Ancestry&g=160XX00US2255000 91.132.48.249 (talk) 15:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

not done, request needs to be in form "change x to y". MartinezMD (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

External links

The "External links" section, one of the optional appendices, had grown 8 entries. Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four links.

The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.

• ELpoints #3) states: Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
• LINKFARM states: There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
• ELMIN: Minimize the number of links. --
• ELCITE: Do not use {{cite web}} or other citation templates in the External links section. Citation templates are permitted in the Further reading section.
• WP:ELBURDEN: Disputed links should be excluded by default unless and until there is a consensus to include them.

• • New Orleans Collection, 1770–1904 from the New-York Historical Society
  • Army Corps of Engineers' New Orleans Risk and Reliability Report – Interactive map showing flood risk
  • "Geology and Hurricane-Protection Strategies in the Greater New Orleans Area" – Louisiana Geological Survey publication on geology
  • "Who's Killing New Orleans? Archived 2008-10-03 at the Wayback Machine – City Journal
  • Louisiana Hurricane History," David Roth. National Weather Service, Camp Springs, MD.

Move links here for possible discussion. -- Otr500 (talk) 15:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Article classification

The article, apparently at one time, passed the WP:B-class criteria. the article is currently in the following categories:

• Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2010
• Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2011
• Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2022
• Articles with unsourced statements from February 2024
• Wikipedia articles needing page number citations from February 2024
  • Criteria #1) states: The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited
  • Criteria #2) states: The article is reasonably well-written.

There seems to be a Wikipedia-wide issue of one or more unsourced sentences placed after the source in a paragraph. The concept of an inline citation would be Text–source integrity: When using inline citations, it is important to maintain text–source integrity. The point of an inline citation is to allow readers and other editors to see which part of the material is supported by the citation; that point is lost if the citation is not clearly placed. The distance between material and its source is a matter of editorial judgment, but adding text without clearly placing its source may lead to allegations of original research, of violations of the sourcing policy, and even of plagiarism.

I started searching for sources, attempting to rectify the issues, but, add issues with the last paragraph of the "Drainage and flood control":

• "New Orleans was vulnerable to flooding even before the city's footprint departed from the natural high ground near the Mississippi River. In the late 20th century, however, scientists and New Orleans residents gradually became aware of the city's increased vulnerability. In 1965, flooding from Hurricane Betsy killed dozens of residents, although the majority of the city remained dry. The rain-induced flood of May 8, 1995, demonstrated the weakness of the pumping system. After that event, measures were undertaken to dramatically upgrade pumping capacity. By the 1980s and 1990s, scientists observed that extensive, rapid, and ongoing erosion of the marshlands and swamp surrounding New Orleans, especially that related to the Mississippi River–Gulf Outlet Canal, had the unintended result of leaving the city more vulnerable than before to hurricane-induced catastrophic storm surges."

After around fifty tabs of searches, including keyword searches, I could not verify the unlinked and unsourced content. Maybe someone else can have better luck. -- Otr500 (talk) 16:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)