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You know, while I respect John Zorn's music, I don't recall him being at the New Music America festivals in Minneapolis, San Francisco or Houston. I believe he performed with his friends at the Hartford festival and he seemed to enjoy that. Perhaps his quote is taken out of context or he was specifically referring to the first event in New York. These festivals were historic and were important to give composers, presenters, musicians and critics the opportunity to interact and share information. Bookings resulted out of this which was a good way to promulgate new music around the country and hear what was going on in different places by those with an overall shared aesthetic. Composers presented the music they wanted to make and it was so non-commercial that I don't understand John's logic. After existing in its pure state, the festival changed around the time of Houston and I didn't keep up with it anymore. Perhaps that is the era John speaks about, I don't really know. But the festival through 1986 was pretty terrific. Eventually, it outgrew its size and then morphed out of its sand crab shell into some other form. The music's still around, it's just really hard to find it now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gallopout (talk • contribs) 01:48, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]