Talk:New England Revolution in international competition

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A fact from New England Revolution in international competition appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the first time the New England Revolution competed in an international competition, they played their "home" match at their opponent's stadium?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the New England Revolution are 0-2-0 (W-L-D) against Trinidadian clubs in international competition?~~ Source:
Gives an overview of the only two matches against Trinidadian opposition: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-public-gives-a-school/143859085/
All-time results can be found here, which proves this is the only matchup against Trinidadian clubs (pages 505-528 are non-MLS clubs): 2024 Media Guide. New England Revolution. Archived from the original on 22 March 2024. Retrieved 22 March 2024.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown (link)

ALT1: ...that in international competition, the New England Revolution have faced Liga Deportiva Alajuelense three times across five editions of the CONCACAF Champions Cup? Source: https://www.revolutionsoccer.net/news/matchday-guide-revs-vs-ld-alajuelense-march-6-2024

ALT2: ...that the New England Revolution are the first MLS team to lose to a Trinidadian club international competition? Source: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/concacaf-champions-league-joe-public-fc-4-new-england-revolution-0

ALT3: ...that the New England Revolution's second trophy came in international competition, when they won the now-defunct SuperLiga in 2008? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240101031128/https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37621894/new-england-revolution-seal-supporters-shield-mls-best-regular-season-team

ALT4: ...that the first time the New England Revolution competed in an international competition, they played their "home" match at their opponent's stadium? Source: (Indicates that this match was the first match and was played at their opponent's home stadium): https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-revolutions-road-trip/143807768/, (Refers to this match as a "home" match): https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-seeking-a-home-feel-adv/143858710/
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Created by Brindille1 (talk).

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Brindille1 (talk) 04:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The hook at present does not appear to meet WP:DYKINT as it is not a hooky hook or one that is likely to attract a broad audience. Pinging SounderBruce to help suggest possible alternative hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the only decent hook that can come from the article is that New England has played Alajuelense three times in their five CCC/CCL seasons, which is a bit unusual. Of course, this needs to be added to the article first with a good source. Sounder Bruce 04:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks Narutolovehinata5 and SounderBruce, I've added the suggested hook (ALT2), as well as three other alternates. One of the challenges in this article is finding hooks that I could reasonably bold-link the article in. I haven't seen any examples of DYK's in the other "international competition" articles I've looked at either. Brindille1 (talk) 03:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think ALT4 has promise and in fact I think it's the only proposal that isn't too reliant on specialist knowledge to be interesting. I'd suggest striking out the others and just focusing on ALT4. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, I've crossed out each of the other hooks.Brindille1 (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article looks good. As for the hook, I'm not sure I see it being called a "home" game – the article itself only notes They faced Liga Deportiva Alajuelense of Costa Rica. Due to logistical issues, both matches were hosted in Costa Rica. The source itself says that "The Revolution surrendered their home game opportunity" unless I'm missing something. @Brindille1: Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: I see your point, and I've added a second source to ALT4 which clearly refers to this match as a home game. Brindille1 (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT4 approved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]