Talk:New England Colonies
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[edit]While Dominion of New England is an somewhat excellent categorization of the New England colonies after the years of colonization, many students must refer and learn that the earlier settlement categorization and the naming of British Colonial America as the New England Colonies, Middle Colonies and Southern Colonies. Ctoys (talk) 01:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Pilgrams
[edit]When I read this book about what actually happened on the Mayflower and after the Mayflower was a very sad thing. They actually didn't have a Thanksgiving meal. They actually fought the entire time. In this book, which has to do with the Plimouth Plantation, it quotes that they weren't really called Pilgrams. Could you please delete the Pilgram facts about the colonies? CPGirlAJ (talk) 21:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
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'Native Americans' vs 'Indians'
[edit]@Dilidor: I’m not convinced by your explanation that 'in historical articles it is customary to use the terminology that was contemporaneous to the topic' as justification for replacing the terms 'Native American' and 'indigenous' with 'Indian'. It looks like people have been disagreeing with you over this since at least 2017 and a WP:3OR decided against your preference at Talk:Pequots. 'Native American' is commonly understood to mean Native Americans in the United States. CoatGuy2 (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- See the archived talk pages on the American Revolutionary War articles, where there has long been heated debate over the terms "Patriot" and "Loyalist". It has consistently been determined that it is best to use contemporaneous language and terminology in historical articles. Furthermore, as I have pointed out ad infinitum, the phrase "Native American" simply means "a person who was born in America". Every single person who fought in King Philip's War was a native American. Please stick to contemporaneous terminology in this article.
- Dilidor (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
"Native American" simply means "a person who was born in America"
ignores the common usage of the term. See: Native Americans in the United States. It's worth noting that the cited sources use both terms interchangeably. Philbrick uses the term Native American well over 100 times to refer to American Indians, and while Newell uses 'Indian' more, she also uses Native and indigenous as synonyms. If the reliable sources don't see a problem with those terms, why should Wikipedia? The loyalist/patriot debate doesn’t really apply here; your specific preference for ‘Indian’ over all other terms has been challenged repeatedly, and the previous dispute resolution process you were involved in yielded a consensus to use 'Native American' in 2019. To continue making these edits across many other pages appears tendentious. CoatGuy2 (talk) 16:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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