Talk:Neo-psychedelia/Archive 1

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The Black Keys are not psychadelia. Blues rock revival yes, psyc influenced no. I took them off the list.

Too broad?

This is the first time I have heard the term neo-psychedelia and it seemed to encompass a ton of music with maybe only having psychedilic influence and not actually being pschydelic themselves. (preceding unsigned comment made by Divster on 03:44, 13 August 2006)

• Agreed, to broad. Althought I'm not sure what are the exact borders of the term, I'm pretty certain it applies only to music that grows out of the alternative and indie scene, and only to rock acts. Squeal 18:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
• Clearly too broad if grunge bands like Soundgarden and the Screaming Trees are being included. They're not even remotely psychedelic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.184.62 (talk) 06:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Early Noise Rock as Neo-Psychedelia

Specifically, I speak of bands like Throbbing Gristle. Their original self-classification was "post-psychedelic trash", which I think is fitting considering the surreal lyrics and disassociated sound of their early records. The first few records by '80s No Wavers Sonic Youth and Swans show a psychedelic influence too, particularly Bad Moon Rising and Body to Body, Job to Job.

Sounds like a made up genre

Can you give examples of this clasification being used by major or indie publications or labels as an actual genre? it sounds made up to me. QOTSA, Wolfmother? no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.13.133 (talk) 02:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

This article is just a list and its range is far too broad for 'Psychedelic Rock'. Tim flatus (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Not sure I understand what your getting if the article was a List it would be "List of Neo-psychedeila bands." Also can you clarify range is to broad because much of this is already covered in the rock article. Ridernyc (talk) 18:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Approve The Merge! There is very little difference between the two as opposed to the differences between 'Progressive, Neo-Progressive and New Prog. Really, the only difference I see is that these are current bands.

I agree with a merge of this article. This article has no sources for the short lead and then is just a list. If there is a need for a list it should be at List of psychedelic rock artists or similar. Personally, although there are many list articles on Wikipedia I rarely see the point of them and they are generally just an invitation for self publicity, hoaxes, and me too fandom, but I am prepared to assent to the creation of such an article if it is deamed necessary. This page should then become a redirect to Psychedelic rock.--SabreBD (talk) 13:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Since it has now been tagged for three years I'm going to be bold and redirect this to the rock article. Ridernyc (talk) 04:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

List?

This is "Neo-psychedelia" not "List of Neo-psychedelic bands"Brando26000 (talk) 00:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Stars (UK band)

notwithstanding the doubts on the very existence of the page, a 1973 band doesn't really belong in the 2000s section. 76.64.241.70 (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Mazzy Star

Surely they would fit quite nicely into the neo-psychedelia genre? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.154.162 (talk) 19:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Prose as opposed to List

I don't believe the prose template thing should be on this aricle. In prose it would be much more difficult to find the bands you're looking for as well as those that shouldn't be there.Talon Foot (talk) 00:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Reviving this article

Since this article was merged almost a year ago to psychedelic rock, (a decision which I was very much in favour of) I have run across more reliable sources on this topic and am willing to spend a little time dragging them together to produce a sourced prose article, which would use the summary there as a basis. The major objections were to the fact that this was largely an unsourced list and to its lack of distinctiveness, both of which I think can be resolved.--SabreBD (talk) 09:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Scallydelia

The term 'Scallydelia' - I was in a band and lived in manchester back then and was DEEEEP into that very music scene, and literally no-one EVER called it that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.72.144 (talk) 16:07, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

It comes from a reliable source and there seem to be a lot more that mention it. However, I suspect that it was more a media term than one used in the scene, as the sentence is meant to imply.--SabreBD (talk) 16:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

"Influenced by house music, a less nostalgic brand of neo-psychedelia, dubbed "scallydelia", developed in the late 1980s among alternative rock bands of the Madchester scene, including The Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets and The Farm." The FARM? PSYCHEDELIC? Also, the term 'scallydelia' was entirely a one-week invention of either the NME or Melody Maker, I forget which. Didn't actually exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.72.144 (talk) 01:45, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

You make the same point and its the same answer. The article just indicates that the term was used in the media, which you acknowledge.--SabreBD (talk) 09:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Dodgy geography

"... British bands of the post-punk scene, including the Teardrop Explodes, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Church, and the Soft Boys ..." - the Church were Australian. "... alternative rock bands of the Madchester scene, including The Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets and The Farm ..." - the Farm were from Liverpool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.82.30 (talk) 11:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

OK Computer and Animal Collective?

OK Computer uses a lot of psychedelic/spacey stylings, especially on Airbag, Subterranean Homesick Alien, and parts of Paranoid Android. The record sounds similar to Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots in part, and the Flaming Lips are also classified as neo-psych.

Animal Collective is also another group often classified as neo-psych. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.227.159.150 (talk) 22:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)