Talk:Nelson's band of brothers
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"You can not choose wrong"
[edit]A mention needs to be made that at the start of the Trafalgar Campaign, as footnote 3 of the Battle of Trafalgar notes:
- When offered his pick from the Navy List by Lord Barham (the First Lord of the Admiralty), Nelson famously replied "Choose yourself, my lord, the same spirit actuates the whole profession; you cannot choose wrong"
The citation provided for this quote is:
- Allen, Joseph (1853). Life of Lord Viscount Nelson. George Routledge. p. 210.
But there are lots of other citations available via a Goggle book search. The first two which are recent books and their content could used in this article to help explain the "Band of Brothers" in the context of the Royal Navy's "community of thought" as it existed at that time:
- Understanding Military Doctrine: A Multidisciplinary Approach, by Harald Hoiback (Routledge, 2013) p. 10
- Understanding Victory: Naval Operations from Trafalgar to the Falklands by Geoffrey Till (ABC-CLIO, 2014), pp. 26–27
-- PBS (talk) 01:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Requested move 3 June 2017
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Nelson's band of brothers per consensus. -- PBS (talk) 22:17, 19 June 2017 (UTC) PBS (talk) 22:17, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Nelson's 'band of brothers' → Band of Brothers (Nelson) – The current name is not acceptable because it does not follow guidance which is to use double-quotes around quotations. I have picked one alternative (no quotes), capitals and a dab extension, but I have no preference for that over using double-quotes (Nelson's "band of brothers"); or using lower-case (Nelson's band of brothers) or (band of brothers (Nelson)). Moving to "Band of Brothers" would mean and moving the dab page. PBS (talk) 12:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. — Music1201 talk 20:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
- Support a move to Nelson's band of brothers. Avoid parentheticals per WP:NATURALDIS, avoid caps as it is not a proper name and avoid the scare quotes—the use of band of brothers here is exactly what has been meant by the term since Shakspeare. — AjaxSmack 01:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not the best alternative because it involves manual piping in other articles ("The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles" (WP:AT). So I suggest that band of brothers (Nelson) is a better option. --PBS (talk) 10:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- Huh? How is a parenthetical "natural" or what "readers are likely to look or search for"? A parenthetical would always require piping. The wording I proposed already appears in the Thomas Foley (Royal Navy officer) and George Blagdon Westcott articles albeit with different punctuation/caps ("Foley was one of Nelson's 'Band of Brothers';" "He was one of Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson's Band of Brothers at..."). No piping required at all. — AjaxSmack 21:17, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- Move to Nelson's band of brothers. Far more logical. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- Move to Nelson's band of brothers as a natural disambiguation. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:50, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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