Talk:Neighbours 30th Anniversary/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Adamstom.97 (talk · contribs) 00:39, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning to review this article for GA over the coming days. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:39, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 03:46, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay, some things have gotten in the way of me getting to this but it is still on my radar to do soon. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:17, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Of course, all good. No rush. Take your take. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I have listed several issues below which I think need to be addressed before I can pass this review. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Issues

• I think the lead is generally okay but it does seem to be a bit big and a bit too plot focused, perhaps just a small copyedit is needed to make it a bit more balanced?  Done
• I'm not sure "celebrity guested" (used twice in the article) is grammatically correct, and even if it is I don't think casual readers are going to understand what it is trying to say.  Done
• MOS:TVPLOT discourages including actor names in plot summaries, and I think it is especially unnecessary when the next section is a cast list.  Done
• It would be good to have references in the cast section (most if not all should be covered by sources already in the article).  Done
• The Development section has a few passages that are just re-explaining the plot. You should be able to cut these down and just refer to the key plot details that the reader should already know from the Plot section.  Done
• I think the first paragraph of the Promotion and broadcast section could do with some dates (at least the months), for context of when the promotion was happening.  Done
• It would also be good to bundle together all of those sources for the second Promotion and broadcast paragraph (WP:REFBUNDLE).  Done
• The whole article relies a bit too much on direct quotes, can you please go through and do some paraphrasing to cut down on these? Especially try to get WP:EARWIG down to having no possible copyright violations if you can.  Done
• A quick check of references looks decent to me but I would expect a Good Article to have web references archived.  Done
• Article is stable and images are all good.  Done

Comments

Thank you for all the advice! Sadly I won't be able to get to this within the next few days, but I will do it soon. As for adding the actors' names in the Storylines section, I just did that because it is how other articles like this do it. So should I still remove them as per your advice or keep them to keep the articles consistent with one another? Thanks again. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 05:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

If all of the Neighbours articles do it then I won't make it a requirement for this review for consistency, but I would suggest the names be removed from any plot sections for the series at some point. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:11, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

@Adamstom.07: Hi, there. I was wondering if we could put this GA off just for a couple more weeks? Something pretty important has come up in real life and I won’t be able to make any of the major edits that this article requires for a while. Thank you. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Apologies, I myself have been busy in real life. I am leaning towards failing the review as it has been so long now but if you expect to complete it in the near future then we can continue. - adamstom97 (talk) 02:22, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

@Adamstom.97: I completely understand, but please don't fail it just yet. It will have my full attention next weekend. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 06:39, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

@Adamstom.97: Additionally, with the cast section, other Neighbours and soap opera articles don't normally cite references for each cast member since they are detiled throughout the rest of the article. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:50, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

I know it is probably tricky at times to cite the cast of a soap and so the episode's credits would presumably be used to support the cast list by default. I am okay with the same being done here, just thought it would make sense to use the citations that are already in the article. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:09, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

@Adamstom.97: Quickly skimming the article, would you say that it's reliance on quotes has been cut down enough or is it too quote-heavy still would you say? - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:15, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes I am happy with the improvements that have been made. - adamstom97 (talk) 01:55, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Alright, then I think everything is done! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 02:15, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for sticking with this and getting it over the line. Changes look good to me, good job! Pass - adamstom97 (talk) 03:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Sorry it has taken so long! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 03:12, 24 September 2023 (UTC)