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Birthdate
[edit]Any chance at a birthdate? Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 13:21, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Sloppy reporting ?
[edit]September 18, 2001, San Diego 10news.com reported Abdussattar as "a retired San Diego State University professor who also serves on the city's police review board" http://www.10news.com/news/964031/detail.html , adding that he "rented a room to Alhamzi and Al-Midhar from September through December last year" [2000] FBI confirmed Alhamzi rented the Clairemont apartment according to same report.
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Orphaned references in Nawaf al-Hazmi
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Reference named "travel":
- From Ziad Jarrah: "Staff Monograph on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel" (PDF). 9/11 Commission. 2004.
- From Mohamed Atta: "9/11 and Terrorist Travel" (PDF). Staff Report. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. 2004. Retrieved 2008-09-26.
- From American Airlines Flight 77: "Chronology". Monograph on 9/11 and Terrorist Travel (PDF). National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. pp. p. 22. Retrieved 2008-05-25.
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Reference named "timeline":
- From Mohamed Atta: Federal Bureau of Investigation (February 4, 2008). "Hijackers' Timeline" (PDF). 9/11 Myths. Retrieved 2008-08-01.
- From American Airlines Flight 77: Federal Bureau of Investigation (2008-02-04). "Hijackers' Timeline" (PDF). 9/11 Myths. Retrieved 2008-08-01.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Nawaf al-Hazmi
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Reference named "911-ch1":
- From Mohamed Atta: "Staff Report - "We Have Some Planes": The Four Flights — a Chronology" (PDF). National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. Retrieved 2008-05-25.
- From American Airlines Flight 77: "'We Have Some Planes'". 9/11 Commission Report. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. 2004. Retrieved 2008-05-30.
- From September 11 attacks: "9/11 Commission Report" (PDF). National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. 2004. Retrieved 2008-05-20.
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ignored (help) - From United Airlines Flight 175: National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (2004). "Chapter 1". 9-11 Commission Report. Government Printing Office.
- From Khalid al-Mihdhar: "Chapter 1". 9/11 Commission Report. National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. Retrieved 2008-09-30.
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Images
[edit]- Nawaf's visa (federal, PD)
- Nawaf listed in the phone book
Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 01:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Dead links from webreflinks
[edit]HTTP error (403) for:
- http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2003/congressreportparta072403.html
- http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/diezeit100102.html
- http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/latimes102801.html
- http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/dailyoklahoman012002.html
- http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/senatecommittee092602.html
"Nawaf al-Hazmi also fought alongside Chechnyans sometime around 1998" -NOT
[edit]Why not? Because there was no such conflict that would enable him to fight "alongside Chechnyans sometime around 1998" following the end of the war of independence in 1996. There was a conflict between "Chechnyans", though (Islamist factions vs Maskhadov government). --94.246.150.68 (talk) 00:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Muscle Highjacker?
[edit]Anyone have a clue what a muscle highjacker is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.19.68 (talk) 23:50, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- The big scary guy whose job it is to beat up the pilots and physically take control of the aircraft. The dumb lunk of agoon, as it were. 176.253.110.66 (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Conflicting information
[edit]Early in the article it is stated
"Mihdhar left Hazmi in California for Yemen in June 2000."
Later in the article it states
"In September, Nawaf and Mihdhdar both moved into the house of FBI informant Abdussattar Shaikh, although he did not report the pair as suspicious.[23][24] Mihdhar is believed to have left the apartment in early October, less than two weeks before the USS Cole Bombing."
The second statement cannot be correct, as Mihdhar did not return from Yemen until July 2001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.126.115 (talk) 11:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Location of the restaurant
[edit]"Immediately after entering the country, al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar met Omar al-Bayoumi in an airport restaurant."
The 9/11 Commission clearly states that the meeting took place at a halal food restaurant on Venice boulevard.(p.217). So do more recent reports and documents, namely "Release of FBI Electronic Communication dated April 4, 2016 Pursuant to Executive Order 14040 § 2(a) (Sept. 3, 2021)." More specifically, this source states the following: ""PII did not recall talking to BAYOUMI about the MEDITERRANEAN GOURMET RESTAURANT but conceded he may have, and added if he were asked about a place to eat he would have recommended the 'MEDITERRANEAN GRILL' on Venice Boulevard..." (p.4)
I understand Newsweek is a reputable source, but I think the 9/11 Commission Report and other government sources should supersede it in terms of authoritativeness. Whether it was the Mediterranean Gourmet Restaurant or the Mediterranean Grill, the fact remains neither of these restaurants was located at LAX but rather on Venice Boulevard.
Unless I'm missing something, of course! 2400:4050:CFA1:1D00:E09:3D65:C321:84EC (talk) 08:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
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