Talk:Navin Chawla (judge)

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Notability

@Hako9: the subject appears to meet WP:JUDGE so not sure if the tag is appropriate absent something I'm missing. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For all SNGs Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included. — hako9 (talk) 01:20, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And how extensive has your search for sources been? Remember that notability isn't based on the sources included, its based on all sources that exist. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And how extensive has your search for sources been? This would be a valid question if I had nominated this article for deletion per WP:BEFORE. How about you do some yourself and find a source with significant coverage about him. Spoiler alert, there isn't. — hako9 (talk) 01:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have the language skills to conduct a full search, coverage could be in at least three languages. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

coverage could be in at least three languages And I "could" be the next king of Timbuktu. And there must be sources because someone with many edits created this article. — hako9 (talk) 01:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After taking a glance at the english language coverage it appears that there are at least three Navin/Naveen (not sure why but there seems to be disagreement on how to render that name) Chawlas of notability or near to it which complicates the search somewhat. This [1] would however appear to be signficant coverage. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the article you just cited? — hako9 (talk) 01:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article which features the the subject of this article? Yes I did. This also seems to be sigcov [2] although as always I dislike naval gazing. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A high court judge in India will probably hear hundreds of cases in their career. One can find and compile the trivial mentions they receive in reliable secondary sources, in many of those cases. That doesn't warrant standalone article on each of those judges. Both the sources you mentioned are NOT sigcov. The context in which Chawla is mentioned is by the oral arguments he made during the proceedings in those relevant cases. In your first source the subject matter of the article is a Netflix show and in the second it is the ani vs wmf case. — hako9 (talk) 01:52, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are not trivial mentions, they are signficant coverage of the subject's descisions. You appear to be confusing primary subject of the article with signficant coverage, coverage does not need to be primarily about the subject in order to be signficant coverage: "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." Horse Eye's Back (talk) 02:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect. A source which publishes verbatim, quotes from the subject does not establish notability. Is there any independent commentary about the judge by barandbench and TOI in the two sources you cited, or any other reliable source? We are an encyclopedia, not an indiscriminate collection of information source that publishes verbatim, oral arguments made by judges during court proceedings. If it were the case, I would create a page for every judge, filled with his/her own quotations. — hako9 (talk) 02:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you can create pages for most judges at that level, hence consensus being that their notability is presumed (presumed notability in this context is basically saying that almost everyone in the given category will have signficant coverage, at least as the community recognizes it not as you recognize it here). Horse Eye's Back (talk) 02:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qualifying SNG does not presume notability. I literally quoted the policy for you. — hako9 (talk) 02:48, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does not guarantee notability you mean... And thats not policy, its part of a guideline. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 02:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

kewl — hako9 (talk) 03:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]