Talk:Navaly church bombing/Archive 1

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Government investigation and results

Please add any information you can about the results of the investigation.--Realstarslayer 18:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Asian tribune source

The report from AT has to be verifiable and also the section does not have other view points that tht attack was accidental or deliberate. Thanks Taprobanus 19:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The article cited was written by Jenvey, and all claims are attributed as such, so the magazine it's published in has no relevance. Also nothing is presented as fact, only the opinion of the one person who knows what happened and is willing to talk about it. If there are other view points, go ahead and add them. Serial tagging isn't going to help. --snowolfD4 ^{( talk / @ )} 20:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Categories

The category Civilian massacres in Sri Lanka and War crimes in Sri Lanka are both referenced to a reliable source. In the following reliable source, the incident is called a civilian massacre and War crime. Is there a reason that this category is being deleted without any discussion ? Watchdogb (talk) 23:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

If this continues we have to take it up with SLR Taprobanus (talk) 05:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Your correct since this is an issue that spans all of SLR topics. Though as of now, since there is no counter argument, it seems that we have consensus. Watchdogb (talk) 14:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of mass murder category from this article

"Mass murder is also defined to be intentional and indiscriminate murder of large number of people by government agents. Examples are shooting of unarmed protestors, carpet bombing of cities, lobbying of grenades into prison cells, random execution of civilians." (see R. J. Rummel, Irving Louis Horowitz, Death by Government, Page 35, ISBN: 1560009276) Looking at carpet bombing of cities as a cited example, it indicates that it was a callous disregard for civilian casualty. In this case the very least, the bombing of Navaly church indicates callous disregard for civilian casualties. As indicated in the UTHR report.In the matter of bombs which were dropped around Navaly church, the pilot could not have missed seeing the church. But he dropped his cluster of bombs apparently to hit one LTTE vehicle in the area. This was an old habit, and the pilot does not seem to have received any instructions about civilian interests. Hence the mass murder category sjhould be reinstated. Taprobanus (talk) 19:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

This looks like WP:SYNTH to me. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 02:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Synthesis, again. YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model) 03:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Synthesis? Oh really ? What about the following source claims? Ignoring the reference does not mean that someone can remove the categories. Watchdogb (talk) 21:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm talking about Taprobanus's comment. As for the Medicine, Conflict and Survival journal article, I don't have access to the full text, so I can't verify your claims. Furthermore, I don't consider the author of the work qualified or neutral to judge the whole incident as a "civilian massacre" and "war crime". Author Daya Somasundaram is a professor of psychiatry who himself fled Sri Lanka "fearing for his and his family’s safety".[1] Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 03:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

So Nish, if we find an acceptable RS source that says this is deliberate then some of these categories would apply ? Taprobanus (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree to the categories if you have multiple reliable and neutral references. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 20:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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