Talk:Naval history of Japan

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General Yi Sunsin

I deleted the following note.

Comment made by Togo following the battle of Tsushima "自分は李舜臣将軍には遠く及ばない" "General Yi Sunsin far surpasses myself", mentionned in "図説東郷平八郎、目で見える明治の海軍", 東郷神社・東郷会" ("Togo Heihachiro. Visual account of the Meiji Navy", Tokyo Shrine-Togo Association publications).

I checked this book by myself but cound not find the corresponding sentence. There are many urban legends about Yi Sunsin [1] and this story is type a. If you want to reinstate it, you have to provice a source that was made immediately after the alleged event. --Nanshu 00:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clean-Up

A very nice start; I'm glad to finally have an article on this subject. It does, however, need a lot of work. There seems to be a disproportionate focus in the pre-modern section on Korea, as references are made to Korean sources and to Korean names for battles. The section on the 16th-19th centuries is disproportionately devoted to Western influences.

There needs to be significant expansion on (a) developments in tactics and technology during the Sengoku period, (b) an overall narrative of tactical and technological developments, and (c) these same developments in the Meiji through WWII periods. As it stands now, I'm very happy that the article isn't dominated by the kind of treatment some WWII buffs might lean towards, but it errs on the opposite side and is too brief I think.

There also needs to be added a section on, or at least mention of, WWI and the very extensive Japanese involvement as a member of the Allied side. The extensive British involvement in the pre WWI era as a role model and supplier to the modernising and expanding Imperial Japanese Navy should be acknowledged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BCCA:8260:357B:8D39:CBE0:7FB8 (talk) 05:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I hope to come back to this and do some of this expansion on my own. Just thought I might help out whoever's working on this page by voicing my concerns. Cheers. LordAmeth 23:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LordAmeth. The post-1869 is rather slim as it is treated in Imperial Japanese Navy. Please do expand where you see fit, without deleting existing material if possible. Regards PHG 03:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I really feel that the list of European attempts at intrusion into Japan doesn't belong here. It's valuable in its own way, but is simply not that essential to what is supposed to be a general overview of Japan's naval history. Could we move this to a separate article, list style or otherwise? LordAmeth 12:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LordAmeth. You may be right. I improved the link to Sakoku, where the full list already is. PHG 12:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Thank you. LordAmeth 13:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppeter Azukimonaka's block evasions in 2009

Since Azukimonaka (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · logs · block log · arb · rfc · lta · rfcu · ssp · SPI · cuwiki), indefinitely blocked sockpuppeter, has kept evading his block sanction with sock accounts and IPs such as 青鬼よし (talk · contribs · logs · block log) this time here again, the header and box are added to differentiate other discussions from his comments instead of blanking per WP:BAN. See WP:SPI/Azukimonaka and its chronicle. --Caspian blue 23:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The source was deleted

"Under the naval genius Admiral Yi Sun-sin...” quotes source ”etsutaro Sato. A Military History of the Empire (Japanese: 帝國國防史論), p. 399” However a Military History of the Empire (帝國國防史論) doesn't have page 399. (This book can be easily confirmed with National Diet Library.)　This book is composed of two books.(上巻 and 下巻) The end of the first book is page 263.[2] The end of the second book is page 210.[3]
"Admiral Yi Sun-sin the Korean navy conducted effective operations to interrupt Japanese supply routes" quotes source History of Ming "邢玠以前役乏水兵無功, 乃益募江南水兵, 議海運, 爲持久計". However, the History of Ming doesn't write Yi Sun-sin at all. History of Ming(Explanation of Korea)[4], History of Ming(Explanation of Japan) [5]
"邢玠以前役乏水兵無功, 乃益募江南水兵, 議海運, 爲持久計"　is "It is a conference (議海運) of a Chinese army. Yi doesn't participate in here."　and "A Chinese army reinforced the marine(水兵) from Jiangnan(江南), and decided protracted struggle.(持久計)" --青鬼よし (talk) 13:25, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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JPOV doubt

I note with interest that the user page for Historiographer includes the following

User:Historiographer#JPOV doubt (permanent link):

Perhaps it will be constructive to address this perceived issue directly. If so, this thread provides a constructive opportunity.

One way to avoid any perceived bias is to cited sources, as has been done here. I would hope this will be construed as a constructive step towards averting any suspected POV or JPOV. --Tenmei (talk) 15:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]