Talk:National Reconnaissance Office/Archive 1

Archive 1

April 2006

Someone references in the spoiler about Deception Point. The book pointed out that the NRO director had Pentagon connections, hence him using Delta Force. Obviously Delta Force would not be under the normal orders of the NRO director. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanthedon (talk • contribs) 07:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Please sign entries using four tildes, and write in clearly understandable English. David Spector (talk) 22:50, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Memo?

I added the memo into the article, but I just added the link instead. FAS.Org had better material than the other sites listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.46.220 (talk) 02:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Nuclearmound 02:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)Nuclearmound

History

Before I update the dates on the history page, I wanted to bring it here first. Looking at the fact sheet from the NRO at http://www.nro.gov/nro_factsheet.doc it states that the NRO was officially established in Sept 1961. In the article, it states 1960. Can I get some clarification prior to updating this page? Thanks Rob110178 03:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

It is 1961. Check the documents on http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB35/ which clearly show the office did not exist before 1961. Bhamer (talk) 03:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Sypsat is coming down, coming down

Both CNN and BBC report based on AP that some 9-ton american photo spysat is failing systems and falling out of the sky in March and yankee are mighty worried that it may fall for Putin so the russkies can steal high-tech. 91.83.22.105 (talk) 10:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

minor-edit:Q_for_LastThurs'_CCanav_Sx9Rckt;Q_for_user-who-initiated-this-topic? Happened to notice something in the early morning sky last week: It was just before sunrise: the event/sky-object looked wispy, a little like a cloud; but quite different from usual clouds (for one thing, there were no other clouds near it; and this one was shaped unusually. Note again, it was during twilight, early morning, maybe last Thurs or Fri morning, maybe the 29, 30, 31st of Aug 2016, maybe Sept 1, 2016. the cloud-like, wispy thing (which didn't look like a UFO or of that nature....sorry, i'm not sure who to mention this to...and i think this is (hopefully?) related to the comment above...so i'm replying here...editors plz pm me if this should be taken down or moved. Thx.) ....anyway, to continue....the first thing that came to mind was that this "cloud" was shaped like a galaxy? (? i know that sounds funny)....it was much "longer" than "high" (length v. height, as seen while on a morning walk)....this "thing" was roughly 2.0 - 2.5 * as long as the full-moon's-full-diameter, but only as "high" about-as-wide-as the crescent moon in the sky that morning (? between 6:00am and 7:30am?)....what's more the "object" was shaped like a "fried-egg-on-edge": mostly flat and wispy-like cloudy-or water-droplets?, except with the yolk-part (in the center) larger?, more dense, and bright like a star (brighter-than-Venus?)...Anyway this "object" was only visible for roughly two minutes, or at-least, from my own personal first-hand experience of this event?....i witnessed it's last two-minutes of visibility...because as it swung (like a pendulum? across the sky? (equal distance from straight-down/below the moon, from my right to west (the "object" moving from westish-to-eastish?..over these two minutes, like it was hung-via-rope from the moon?) towards the east...as it came in line w/ the line between the moon and rising sun (like the hypotenuse-line_the-left_or_east-side-of-a_triangle? (a double-triangle (isosceles, w/ the other mirrored hypotenuse_or-side/not-"base"_right_or_nw-ish_side-of-a-triangle?....it was no longer visible (at the far-eastish-side/hyp/rope-furthest[visible]extent?...in fact as this object "swung" eastwardish, it "shrank" in size (to no-size/no longer visible), it's shape and orientation stayed pretty-much exactly the same, even the location of the central-brighter-star-like thing (the "yolk", looking like a wispy galaxy (droplets as the sun rose - not starry like at night? ) as one might see on a TV science or astronomy documentary (like PBS's NOVA, here in the US....or maybe BBC or Channel 4 across the Pond...) anyway ? Q: GIS satellite attempt at geo-stationary orbit, approx. above 45 degree lat.? (well, i was standing at near 45 N, in one of the "Great Lakes States" (N. America).....so, of course i'm no expert...maybe it was a spinning-satellite w/ vapor or light-reflected/bouncing (or ionization?) off of solar-panels? don't know...just thought i'd share. But SRSLY i wonder if OP can comment here. JAGroch (talk) 19:50, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Actual Patch?

On this page [[1]], the 3rd patch down (with the dragon clutching the Earth) is for this organization. I was checking Wikipedia to see if it's the old patch, but there's no mention. It's a hell of a lot creepier than the current image. Anyone got a reliable source? It's a cool patch. 99.246.109.131 (talk) 00:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I have no answer, but ten similar patches are imaged at [2], which is usually considered a reliable source. I do not know if any are relevant to this article. David Spector (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced content

There is a weird section that starts "In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, NRO was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.". Apart from being unclear as to which September 11, is this for real? I've tagged it for now. Does anybody know if this is just an urban myth? 114.199.97.21 (talk) 05:13, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

While it now has a source, I think the more important issue is that the three paragraphs in question serve little purpose in giving a reader an understanding the NRO. They don't belong in the introduction, nor do they fit anywhere else in the article. Wambear1 (talk) 04:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm all for removal of both that section and the section on the strategic wargaming division. Definitely NPOV as it takes a decidedly conspiratorial air - Wiki is for facts, not speculation. --Smegpt86 (talk) 02:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm for retaining even unsourced content in an article this small on one of the most important government agencies that we have. If and when better content is available, then unsourced content should be replaced by better descriptions of what this agency does. David Spector (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Additional Info?

Does anyone have any leads for where I might find info on the number of satellites operated by the NRO? I understand that the exact number is almost definitely classified,but there's a good chance someone has a rough number worked out, perhaps from looking at military launches? If I come across anything credible, I'll add it here. Dpenn89 (talk) 17:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

It may not be a straightforward answer. The agency may "own" a number of satellites, but may also share time on others with other agencies. Cla68 (talk) 22:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

New Octopus logo

Fox news story and image, Dec 2013 about logo for a spy satellite. Unless Fox News is making a joke? Also a story somewhere at Forbes. Something of interest to add. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 01:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Established when?

The infobox says 1961. The text says 1960 William M. Connolley (talk) 11:45, 18 April 2017 (UTC)