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Playoffs

Anyone got previous scores?? Me677 18:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

07-08 Current

Though the matches haven't yet started, that is the page for current Conference National events. Che84 20:16, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Square Premier v. Conference National

It is Wikipedia's policy to refer to leagues by their unsponsored name. The Premier League page is not titled "Barclay's English Premier League", and the same precedent should be applied here. Che84 19:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, but 'Blue Square premier' should redirect to the Conference National page.

Or perhaps not? Division One became 'Coca Cola Championship', therefore is called 'The Championship'. However the change from 'Football Conference' to 'Blue Square Premier' should logically mean that the article is renamed 'Premier', clearly complete rubbish. The BBC which has similar advertising-free rules to Wikipedia - [1] has chosen to adopt the sponsored name. After all this league has historically changed its name with the sponsor - its an inherent part of the name, be it the Alliance Premier League, the Gola League, Vauxhall Conference or Blue Square Premier. As the article itself says: "Since 1984 it has been publicly known by the names of a succession of official title sponsors." The 'Conference' aspect no longer exists, in the same way we don't insisit on calling this article the 'Alliance Premier League' Me677 16:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, Division One became the Football League Championship, which was then sponsored by Coke to become the Coca-Cola Football League Championship. The unsponsored name of this league is still Conference National, and until that changes, it is completely ridiculous to even consider changing the article title. Che84 20:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't it be the "Conference Premier"? Malpass93 (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion on the Non-League Matters forum whether the top division of the Conference should be Conference National or Conference Premier. See http://nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=271464#271464 I've come round to the point of view that it should be Conference Premier. Rainjar (talk) 15:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The unsponsored name of this league is Blue Square Premier —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.235.6 (talk) 20:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is not correct, as Blue Square Bet is the sponsor. Rainjar (talk)

Fully professional or not?

As this league falls within the remit of the Wiki football project and it is sometimes mentioned about this leagues professional status on there - could someone who knows answer this (I have tried to find out by looking at clubs articles and by looking briefly at the official website for the league) What is the status of the league (and by league I mean the Confernce National AKA Blue Square Premier)? How many clubs are fully professional and which (if any) are still semi-professional? Thank you ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 01:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe all clubs in the league are professional, but the league does not require them to be, so the league isn't considered fully professional. Che84 04:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a few part-timers including: Burton Albion, Northwich Victoria which just makes it bizarre that they're playing with Oxford United who can get 11,000 to matches. I'd consider Wikipedia's definition that the Conference can't have full player profiles, etc, because it isn't (and with promotion of 'lucky' teams from the leagues below, will never be) 'professional' completely outdated and bizarre. Me677 10:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So what is the typical salary for players in the Conference? How large is the gulf between the Conference and Football League Two? Ffda (talk) 01:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Table at bottom of page

The table at the bottom of the page stretches way beyond the normal confines of the page and result in a lot of empty sapce in the table as well as a horizontal scroll bar. I am unsure as to how to fix this and so ask a more experienced editor to do it. Tetzcatlipoca 16:11, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done Chrislintott (talk) 10:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Concrete Shed?

I dont know if this is a dig at burton or their actual stadium name. could someone change it back to the pirelli stadium? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.54.78 (talk) 16:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:53, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Conference National → Conference Premier – The official Football Conference website states that the unsponsored name of this division is Conference Premier, not Conference National. Additionally it is the name used by all major news outlets during this period when the competition is not sponsored by anyone. In contrast "Conference National" gets no hits in Google News at all. ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 21:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per nom, it is clearly the official and common name. No real argument. Giant Snowman 21:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm convinced. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 17:39, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Per nom. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:34, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per here (for anyone looking for the info on the Conference website). – Pee Jay 23:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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New Sponsor

Now the league is being sponsored by Vanarama, when will you start using their logo instead of Skrill's now obsolete one? Quizman1967 (talk) 17:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What happens if both relegated teams are in Conference North or South ?

Explanation is needed of what happens if both relegated teams are clearly in Conference North or South region. E.g. if both relegated teams are relegated to the Conference North region, would the southernmost team in the North area have to be moved to the South area for next season to keep the same number of teams in each region ? This would imply that teams on the border between North and South can find themselves moving North and South fairly often. Rcbutcher (talk) 23:03, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

So Football Conference has been moved to National League (English football), Conference North has been moved to National League North and Conference South has been moved to National League South. This article still needs moving, but with what disambiguator? National League (division)? Mattythewhite (talk) 14:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Although it is accurate and there isn't really anything we can do about it, it's worth pointing out that "The National League .... is the top division of the National League" sounds really silly.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:37, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eliminator

What is the eliminator? Been using to see how promotion works, but I can't find any explanation here. Beyondheat (talk) 21:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please contribute to the Move Discussion at National League

There is a move discussion at National League, the USA baseball page, over moving that to a disambiguation page. Part of the reason for this move would be to avoid editors trying to find this page from ending up at a baseball page by mistake. Please contribute. Mountaincirque^talk 13:03, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]