Talk:National Firefighter Registry for Cancer

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A fact from National Firefighter Registry for Cancer appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 October 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the CDC created a registry to collect data on cancer in firefighters?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/National Firefighter Registry.

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The initial version of this article was written by NIOSH staff, and we have done our best to present the program neutrally. Of course, we welcome any feedback or improvements to the article. I have specifically asked the DYK reviewer below to scrutinize any neutrality issues that might arise from COI. I request that you please don't re-draftify the article, as that interferes with the review. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 03:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:32, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the National Firefighter Registry will collect voluntary information for evaluating cancer risk factors for U.S. firefighters? Source: [1] [2]
- Reviewed: Surinder Singh Bakhshi
- Comment: The National Firefighter Registry is a program of NIOSH, so we have a COI on this article. We request an experienced reviewer to check the article for neutrality and other COI issues.

Moved to mainspace by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) and Jnels526 (talk). Nominated by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) at 03:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

* General eligibility:
New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I tried to remove a lot of close-paraphrasing in the article and make it more neutral. But I'm still unsure if the hook is interesting enough. It just describes what the NFR does. Graearms (talk) 22:02, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Graearms: How about this? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 02:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the U.S. National Firefighter Registry is designed to improve cancer research by voluntarily collecting work history data that is not consistently recorded in state cancer registries?
Source: "However, little information about cancer patients’ work history is collected in these state cancer registries." [3], "Although NPCR cancer registries are required to collect industry and occupation (I&O) data, there is not a standard practice for collection of these variables... Often, these data may be missing, incomplete, lacking detail, and/or more likely to be ascertained in patients with cancers that have known association to occupational exposures (ie, differential misclassification)." [4]

ALT1 is a bit too long and it, along with ALT0 it sounds a bit too much like an advertisement. I think a more neutral and more interesting hook might be:

ALT2: ... that the CDC created a registry to collect data on cancer in firefighters?
Source:"National Firefighter Registry | NIOSH | CDC". www.cdc.gov. 2022-09-19. Retrieved 2022-10-04. Graearms (talk) 02:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Graearms: ALT1 is not too long, it is 188 characters. You specifically requested a hook that went beyond a simple description of what it is. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 03:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How about this? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 00:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1b: ... that the U.S. National Firefighter Registry will match state cancer data with voluntarily collected work history data from firefighters?

I'm sorry for how long it has taken for me to review this nomination. I felt as if your nominations sounded too close to advertisements and were just bland descriptions of the NFR. However, looking back I think I was wrong. ALT1 and ALT1b are both fine. Graearms (talk) 02:56, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]