Talk:National Film Award for Best Female Playback Singer

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Parveen Sultana?

I read a book in which it was clearly stated that the winner of this award in 1982 was Asha Bhosle and only Asha Bhosle. The article cited by the anon seems to have a mistake which is fatal and which I request more sources for. It has to be better verified, since it's very well known that Bhosle was the only winner of that year. I'm pretty sure the article actually confuses the award with the Filmfare award which Parveen Sulatana won that year for this song. I say that especially because the article mentions both Filmfare and this award in the very same paragraph, so this probably created a little mistake. Except this source, there is absolutely no other source which mentions Parveen Sultana as the winner of the national award. Here you can see the full list of the 29th National Film Awards recipients, and Bhosle is mentioned as the sole winner of the award. This is far more precise than an article discussing the career of RD Burman. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Parveen Sultana did win this award. Though it is very rarely known, but its correct. Article mentioned by anon, The Swan Song does not seem to confusing between National Award and Filmfare Award as mentioned by Shahid as it clearly says about he missing the National Award 'twice' whereas he missed the Filmfare Award 'sixteen' times !

Moreover there are couple of sources as well which mentions about Parveen Sultana winning this award. Here is an interview of Parveen Sultana herself, published in The Hindu where article mentions about her win. Though article posted by anon is from other site, it was basically published in The Indian Express. This is one more source from The Tribune, though its just a one-line-mention. All these articles were published in the stalwarts of India Media, so their authenticity is not challenged.

There is one more solid source of she winning this award and that is 57th National Film Awards winning short film about R. D. Burman, Pancham Unmixed - Mujhe Chalte Jaana Hai (An Unending Journey...). This short film won National Film Award for Best Compilation Film. It clearly mentions about the Bhupindar Singh, Lata Mangeshkar, Parveen Sultana, Aarti Mukherjee, Asha Bhosle, Gulzar winning the National Awards. See the 1:29:28 - 1:29:37. If required, I can upload the screen shot as well to support this statement. Let me know about it. Thanks Vivvt (talk) 03:32, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Parveen Sultana did not win the award - see the official announcement of the awards by the directorate. Asha Bhosle is mentioned as the only winner. Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I had seen that couple of days back. Working on other pages cleaning by that time. I will take out incorrect awards added by me, if any. I apologize for the incorrect information. Most of the sources mentioned above were 'supposedly' reliable. But not now ! Moreover I still wonder how National award committee did not object about Pancham Unmixed - Mujhe Chalte Jaana Hai (An Unending Journey...). Its a national award winning documentory itself. Thanks. Vivvt (talk) 22:53, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The main problem is Filmfare (as I mentioned above). At that time these were practically the main notable awards, so confusions must have occured and been spread all over, so even reliable sources started repeating the mistake. If you notice, both Parveen Sultana and Aarti Mukherjee won a Filmfare for their performances in Kudrat and Masoom, respectively (while both Lata and Asha refused to accept the award in order to promote fresh talent in the music industry). Anyway, I'm happy the problem has been solved, and thank you Vivvt for you continuous contributions on these pages. Shahid • ^Talk2me 23:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem ! Thanks. Vivvt (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Award winning songs

Please do not add/mention song(s) in the respective column unless it is mentioned in the primary source i.e. official brochure released by Directorate of Film Festivals or it is the only song sung by the singer in the film. Over the years, various secondary sources have added multiple songs, none of them are supported by the primary sources. - Vivvt (Talk) 04:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Vivvt, Only primary sources???? Can't we edit even if we get the right information from second sources with reference??? Wikipedia is about to improve the articles by editing them with right references, we hope..!

Secondary sources cannot provide information about something that is not mentioned in the primary sources. Please read about primary source. - Vivvt (Talk) 12:26, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have read, but you are against the purpose of Wikipedia. AjaykumarAdhisha (talk) 04:05, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT'S WRONG??

I'm trying to put the right name of the song for which S Janaki got her 3rd national award.. Someone is not keeping it for a second toooo...Don't know what's wrong with them. AjaykumarAdhisha (talk) 10:21, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AjaykumarAdhisha: Read the section above. - Vivvt (Talk) 11:08, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Addition of superlatives (June 2018)

I would like to add the following superlatives to the page.


Superlative	Artist	Record
Most awards	K. S. Chithra	6 (wins)
Most wins in a decade	Shreya Ghoshal (2000s)	4 (wins)
Oldest winner	Lata Mangeshkar (1990)	60 (age)
Youngest winner	Uthara Unnikrishnan (2014)	10 (age)

This superlative was added by User:Ayush Gupta At Wikipedia in 16 June 2018, which the user User:Vivvt finally removed after I asked the question why the user Vivvt is not allowing me to add the corresponding superlatives to the male singers list (see Talk:National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer and the edit history of the page). Some other additions of User:Ayush Gupta At Wikipedia was continuously removed by User:Vivvt, User:Kishfan and 43.245.8.27, the same users who are opposing the addition of superlatives in National Film Award for Best Male Playback Singer. - User:Sunlitsky 30 June 2018. —Preceding undated comment added 21:07, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stop treating Wikipedia like a school project. Read about WP:V and WP:OR. The information is already present in the table about how many singers won the award, when and how many times. Do not represent the same info again in the table. Current table is sortable and can and does provide the same information. - Vivvt (Talk) 09:01, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User talk:Vivvt, I read WP:V and WP:OR. But I still feel like it does not oppose the addition of superlatives to the page. As User talk:JackintheBox says, verifiability is not an issue here. And I don't see any original research too, but only a matter of redundancy (If these superlatives are redundant, so does the information about the total number of awards of the top three singers, which also can easily be seen by sorting as you say). In addition, it is not straight forward from the list to see who is the youngest and oldest winner of all. I believe you agree with me on this. If you still think it is redundant, I am fine with your decision. - User talk:Sunlitsky —Preceding undated comment added 16:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Its redundant. Please remove as needed. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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