Talk:ISTE Standards

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This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Some or all of the changes may be promotional in tone.

Specifically, I would like to replace this content: The National Educational Technology Standards (NETS) are a set of standards published by the International Society for Technology in Education (ISTE) for the purpose of leveraging the use of technology in K-12 education to enable students to learn effectively and live productively in an increasingly digital society.[1] With technology teachers can teach outside of the classroom. It is very beneficial for students to learn quickly and easily. The use of technology motivates students to learn, and using the internet will eliminate the unwanted (extra) information provided in text books. Classrooms need to be updated. Teaching and learning need to change as society changes. Using any type of technology, cameras, computers, etc., students can resort back to the saved images and such to remember things that they can never look at again. For example, a class goes on a field trip to study rocks, students take pictures of them so when they go back to the classrooms they can see exactly what each rock looks like instead of struggling to remember. Technology is beneficial to all of those hands on children. Students will be determined to learn as much as they can because it is a fun experience. Having engaged students will call for their success.

With this content: The ISTE Standards are published by the International Society for Technology and Education (ISTE®) [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/], the premier nonprofit organization serving educators and education leaders committed to empowering connected learners in a connected world. The ISTE Standards [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/standards] provide a framework for using technology to amplify learning and teaching in the digital age. They include the ISTE Standards for Students [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/standards/iste-standards/standards-for-students], which focus on the skills and dispositions students need to use technology to analyze, explore and contribute in the digital age. They also include standards supporting professional roles, including the ISTE Standards for Teachers [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/standards/iste-standards/standards-for-teachers], ISTE Standards for Administrators [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/standards/iste-standards/standards-for-administrators], ISTE Standards for Coaches [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/standards/iste-standards/standards-for-coaches] and ISTE Standards for Computer Science Educators [link or reference: http://www.iste.org/standards/iste-standards/standards-for-computer-science-educators].

I would also like to replace the content under History with:

ISTE released the first version of the student standards in 1998 under the name National Education Technology Standards or NETS. At that time, the standards focused on emerging technology skills that students should acquire. Standards for teachers and administrators followed in 2000 and 2001, respectively.

In 2007, ISTE refreshed the student standards and released them as the “ISTE Standards for Students” to reflect the increasing global reach brought about by technology. Instead of focusing on learning how to use technology, the 2007 ISTE Standards for Students emphasized how the effective integration of technology impacts learning. ISTE then updated the ISTE Standards for Teachers (2008) and the ISTE Standards for Administrators (2009). In 2011, ISTE added two new sets of standards to its suite — the ISTE Standards for Coaches and the ISTE Standards for Computer Science Educators — to provide support for these expanding, technology-focused professional roles.

In 2015, ISTE began the process of refreshing the standards once again to reflect the changing landscape of learning and teaching. The 2016 ISTE Standards for Students will be released in June 2016 at the annual ISTE Conference and Expo [link or reference: http://conference.iste.org/2016/].

Then I would like to delete the Categories section.

All of these requested changes are simple changes of facts that changed and are not controversial in any way.

Andramere (talk) 23:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Andramere[reply]

I would like to request changes to this page because the information on the page is outdated. The NETS changed to the ISTE Standards a few years ago, and the history needs to be updated. I would like to move the page to a page titled ISTE Standards, and I would like to change the content to what is on my sandbox page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andramere/sandbox.

Andramere (talk) 22:55, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Andramere[reply]

I updated the content on the page to be accurate as of 2016 and added external links, so I believe the issues noted at the top of the page have been resolved. How do I get the alerts removed? Andramere (talk) 00:56, 4 February 2016 (UTC)andramere[reply]

@Andramere: Reviewer explanation: I looked briefly at the proposed new wording. Phrases such as the premier nonprofit organization and provide a framework for using technology to amplify learning and teaching are classic examples of PR language and have no place in a neutrally worded encyclopedia.

--S Philbrick (Talk) 16:22, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit requested on February 5

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Some or all of the changes weren't supported by neutral, independent, reliable sources. Consider re-submitting with content based on media, books and scholarly works.

I have gone back over the proposed content for this page and have taken out all promotional language. I also deleted all links to the organization's website. Please reconsider replacing the copy on this page with the following:

Replace the introductory content with: <begin text> The ISTE Standards are published by the International Society for Technology and Education (ISTE), a nonprofit membership organization for educators and education leaders. The ISTE Standards provide a framework for using technology to amplify learning and teaching in the digital age. They include the ISTE Standards for Students, which focus on the skills and dispositions students need to use technology to analyze, explore and contribute in the digital age. They also include standards supporting professional roles, including the ISTE Standards for Teachers, ISTE Standards for Administrators, ISTE Standards for Coaches and ISTE Standards for Computer Science Educators. <end text>

I would also like to replace the content under History with: <begin text> ISTE released the first version of the student standards in 1998 under the name National Education Technology Standards, or NETS. At that time, the standards focused on emerging technology skills that students should acquire. Standards for teachers and administrators followed in 2000 and 2001, respectively.

In 2007, ISTE refreshed the student standards and released them as the ISTE Standards for Students to reflect the increasing global reach brought about by technology. Instead of focusing on learning how to use technology, the 2007 ISTE Standards for Students emphasized how the effective integration of technology impacts learning. ISTE then updated the ISTE Standards for Teachers (2008) and the ISTE Standards for Administrators (2009). In 2011, ISTE added two new sets of standards to its suite — the ISTE Standards for Coaches and the ISTE Standards for Computer Science Educators — to provide support for these expanding, technology-focused professional roles.

In 2015, ISTE began the process of refreshing the standards once again to reflect the changing landscape of learning and teaching. The 2016 ISTE Standards for Students will be released in June 2016 at the annual ISTE Conference and Expo." <end text>

Then I would like to delete the Categories section.

Hi Andramere. This version is much better than the one you proposed above (it is customary for the newest talk page posts to be placed at the bottom, so I moved it here.) However, it still needs to be attributed to reliable sources, that is, it needs citations to sources other than ISTE's own website. The categories section will not be deleted because it is necessary for Wikipedia's internal organization. It's not meant for the general readership, instead categories are a way for editors to keep track of similar articles. Altamel (talk) 01:45, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your proposed text is still slightly promotional. Avoid empty phrases that don't really mean anything in specific: for example, "analyze, explore, and contribute in the digital age." This basically means the exact same thing as the clause immediately preceding it: students use technology. So avoiding that kind of redundancy is crucial to maintaining a neutral tone in our articles. I've cleaned it up below:

The ISTE Standards are published by the International Society for Technology and Education (ISTE), a nonprofit membership organization for educators. What is an education leader? How does this differ from educators? Avoiding redundancy is key to keeping our articles neutral The ISTE Standards provide a framework for incorporating technology into teaching the school curriculum. They include the ISTE Standards for Students, which focus on the skills and dispositions students need in order to use technology. They also include standards supporting professional roles, including the ISTE Standards for Teachers, ISTE Standards for Administrators, ISTE Standards for Coaches and ISTE Standards for Computer Science Educators.

ISTE released the first version of the student standards in 1998 under the name National Education Technology Standards, or NETS. At that time, the standards focused on emerging technology skills that students should acquire. Standards for teachers and administrators followed in 2000 and 2001, respectively.

In 2007, ISTE refreshed the student standards and released them as the ISTE Standards for Students ~~to reflect the increasing global reach brought about by technology.~~ Redundant, this clause doesn't tell us anything about how the standards were changed. That doesn't come until the next paragraph Instead of focusing on learning how to use technology, the 2007 standards emphasized This sentence is very unclear. What is the difference between "focusing on learning" and "impacting learning"? As a reader, I don't see how the 2007 standards changed. how the effective integration of technology impacts learning. ISTE then updated the Standards for Teachers in 2008 and the Standards for Administrators in 2009. In 2011, ISTE added two new sets of standards to its suite — the ISTE Standards for Coaches and the ISTE Standards for Computer Science Educators — to provide support for these expanding, technology-focused professional roles.

In 2015, ISTE began the process of refreshing the standards once again to reflect the changing landscape of learning and teaching. The 2016 ISTE Standards for Students will be released in June 2016 at the annual ISTE Conference and Expo. Again, same problem with this paragraph. What does "refreshing...to reflect" really mean? This is the weakness of writing in the language of press releases: the content created sounds vaguely positive, which fits the purpose of promoting the subject. But as a result, the content lacks the specific details that encyclopedia readers are looking for.

Hope this helps. A rewrite is still needed. Altamel (talk) 02:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The title (and probably the content) is now out of date.

The name of the standards have been changed
The standards have been updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ComancheTodd (talk • contribs) 22:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Move and possible update

Hi, a draft came through AfC recently for an update of this page. That's not how it works, but I am ready to work on updating this article based on the information in the draft. The first order of business would be a move to ISTE Standards, and then some gradual merging of content. If you have any suggestions or objections, please let me know. Happy Squirrel (talk) 01:44, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Happysquirrel: See below, the draft author unilaterally replaced this article with the version they submitted through AfC. Altamel (talk) 05:46, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for dropping the ball on this one. I had some final exams and wasn't up to merging the article. I will try to help out with some clean up though. Happy Squirrel (talk) 14:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Happysquirrel Don't worry about it, real life is more important than Wikipedia. The fixes you made so far look good to me. Altamel (talk) 04:04, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New section

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hi, I added a link to a Wikipedia page for educational technology so that it would be better connected to the rest of Wikipedia. Can the "Dead End" alert be removed? This page would also be improved if the title were updated to the current official name of the standards, ISTE Standards. I see that Happy Squirrel has offered to move it to a new page of that name and to make further updates. Andramere (talk) 20:56, 29 April 2016 (UTC)andramere[reply]

Removed the dead end maintenance tag and updated the title. In the future, please note that unilaterally replacing this article's content with your preferred version is strongly discouraged under Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest editing guideline, especially when you have been reverted several times by different editors. However, as the previous version of this article was highly promotional and also contained copyright violations of outside text, I will treat this particular case as an exception and allow your version to stand. Altamel (talk) 05:46, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]