Talk:National Civic League

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Attempted Rewrite

I attempted to rewrite this, but there's not much information on this organization that doesn't come from the organization itself. The only third party documentation has been local papers announcing the annual All-America City Awards. Furthermore, there are parts of this article that are directly lifted from the organizations website. The most obvious case: http://ncl.org/about/vision.html Willcrys 84 (talk) 06:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why this article should be kept

I didn't create the article, but I did insert the {{hangon}} tag in response to the WP:CSD.

Under its original name, the National Municipal League, the organization spearheaded the "Good Government" movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries in the United States. Even if you ignore the lists of its founders, presidents, and chairpersons (which include notable mayors, governors, senators, congressmen, a supreme court justice, and a president), its notability can be easily verified by searching the archives of the New York Times and Chicago Tribune:

The article had been tagged as a blatant advertisement after an anonymous editor (editing from an IP address in Denver, CO, where the current organization makes its headquarters) hacked it up in 2009. I am about to revert those edits.

-- DanielPenfield (talk) 07:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]