Talk:National

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 21:16, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

National → National (disambiguation) – I propose that the clear primary topic of the adjective "national" is Nation (the thing that it is "-al" of). I would move this page to a "Foo (disambiguation)" title and redirect this title to Nation. bd2412 T 18:47, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – It's hard to imagine that someone is seeking "Nation" if they typed "National". Much more likely they're looking for one of many things called "National". This is what disambig pages are for. Dicklyon (talk) 23:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's hard to imagine anyone searching for anything by typing "National". Virtually everything on the page is a partial title match, except the three obscure cities and few other odds and ends. bd2412 T 23:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, there's certainly nothing to fix if nobody is ever going to type it. Dicklyon (talk) 23:46, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - The problem is that people link to it, regularly, usually when their intended target is Nation. bd2412 T 12:09, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - So I went looking at what links here to see why they would do that. The first two I checked would not be improved by taking the reader to nation. Better to leave them as disambiguation needed. Dicklyon (talk) 16:48, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - I can imagine typing "national" to find an article. In fact, I typed "National" to read National (brand) in the past. In any case, we should excise those "national something" partial matches to improve usefulness of this page. I don't think many of them are simply called "national" and few readers would expect to find those articles just typing "national". --Kusunose 05:06, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Aside from the obscure and little known place names, most uses are references to something being of a nation, or nationwide. Even National (brand) is intended to evoke that meaning. bd2412 T 12:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - My comment is a reply for your "It's hard to imagine ..." and just saying people will type "national" to read those obscure topics because that is the name of things. And that this page needs cleanup because those entries being buried in full of partial matches makes finding them harder. That's all. It was not for or against the page move. --Kusunose 01:36, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose it is citizen, not nation. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment maybe it should be merged with The National? Christian75 (talk) 11:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is a helpful and important DAB (and well written). There is no suggestion of any primary topic, and it's a very common term. Andrewa (talk) 18:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.