Talk:Narcissistic parent

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Website link removed

I removed the link to "Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers." This page appears to be owned by a hobbyist (who does not display her real name or contact information) and is not supported by a professional organization. Her research is not cited and much of it appears to be largely opinion based. I believe this web site falls under Wikipedia's "self published sources" category. 216.83.5.187 (talk) 18:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

link to www.iragollobin.com removed -- there is no indication that the subject of the site, ira gollobin, was actually formally diagnosed with NPD. nor is it clear, from the story told, that such a diagnosis would have even been accurate. the writer seems to be complaining mainly about her father's workaholism, over-inflated ego, and the fact that she was left out of his will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.245.155.28 (talk) 11:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I think you are on shakey ground. Narcissism is more broad than narcissistic personality disorder. Somebody could be very narcissistic without having npd.--Penbat (talk) 11:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

i see your point. the article isn't necessarily about NPD. oversight on my part. yet i think the link should probably be removed anyway. if you check out the site, you might notice that there's not much discussion of the father's behavior beyond the fact that he left the authors (the subject's daughter and son-in-law) out of his will, which the daughter claims constitutes child abuse. it's all very emotionally charged and poorly written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.245.155.28 (talk) 12:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Narcissistic Parents

Tis true...and I am not infringing any copyright laws.

Karen Mills England —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.164.255 (talk) 14:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

this whole article is a quotation

As it stands now, this article is lifted almost verbatim from the (copyrighted) article it cites, with only the first few words changed.

The wikipedia article:

'Narcissistic parents demand certain behavior from their children because they see the children as extensions of themselves, and need the children to represent them in the world in ways that meet the parents’ emotional needs.[1] (For example, a narcissistic father who was a lawyer demanded that his son, who had always been treated as the "favorite" in the family, enter the legal profession as well. When the son chose another career, the father rejected and disparaged him.)[according to whom?]

These traits will lead overly narcissistic parents to be very intrusive in some ways, and entirely neglectful in others. The children are punished if they do not respond adequately to the parents’ needs. This punishment may take a variety of forms, including physical abuse, angry outbursts, blame, attempts to instill guilt, emotional neglect, and criticism. Whatever form it takes, the purpose of the punishment is to enforce compliance with the parents' narcissistic needs.'

The cited article:

'They may also demand certain behavior from their children because they see the children as extensions of themselves, and need the children to represent them in the world in ways that meet the parents’ emotional needs. (For example, a narcissistic father who was a lawyer demanded that his son, who had always been treated as the “favorite” in the family, enter the legal profession as well. When the son chose another career, the father rejected and disparaged him.) These traits will lead the parent to be very intrusive in some ways, and entirely neglectful in others. The children are punished if they do not respond adequately to the parents’ needs. This punishment may take a variety of forms, including physical abuse, angry outbursts, blame, attempts to instill guilt, emotional withdrawal, and criticism. Whatever form it takes, the purpose of the punishment is to enforce compliance with the parents’ narcissistic needs.' (http://www.alanrappoport.com/pdf/Co-Narcissism%20Article.pdf - page 2)

The article that is referenced here is copyrighted, according to the author's website (http://www.alanrappoport.com/).

I'm very inexperienced here (and not a subject expert, I was just looking something up), so I didn't want to do anything, but thought I'd raise the issue in case it is an issue in hopes that someone might address it.

If it's not an issue (or if I should have dealt with it differently), please accept my apologies.

Rutabagabuddha (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

This article needs more development, with more from the listed Further reading. --Penbat (talk) 22:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Psychopathic parent

A sister psychopathic parent article would be nice.--Penbat (talk) 18:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Unsupported material

Narcissistic people tend to avoid adoption, instead preferring to procreate themselves, due to the satisfaction of seeing their children grow up to be in their own image.

The first source makes no mention of this assertion. The second link is a self-published website. 2602:306:C5B4:E3D0:ED6D:9D06:362C:5C7E (talk) 06:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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Strongly correlated with Gross Neglect Too

Not only correlated with controlling, manipulative parenting, but equally with grossly neglectful parenting, I think. The parent so self-absorbed they neglect, disown or reject the child. Maternal rejection was my experience of an intensely narcissistic mother. Narcissism seem to have its roots, somewhat ironically, as a psychic defence mechanism to having experienced a lack of affectionate and affirming parenting. A self-perpetuating phenomenon, you might say. My experience again. And then there's the ever-present confounder; namely, that singular personality disorders are the exception, multiple personality disorders the rule. Certainly my experience again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.210.84 (talk) 15:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)