Talk:Nail clubbing

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Image of digital clubbing

I moved the photograph captioned "Clubbing in the fingers of a 33 year old female with pulmonary hypertension" to the section titled Disease associations. The page renders better this way in different skins, and meaning is not compromised. The image is in fact sitting exactly where it was in the earlier version in Monobook, and in other skins it aligns nicely with the first picture and the margin. (To Ann McGrath, thank you for providing the photograph, and all best wishes to you and your daughter).—Encephalon | ζ | Σ 16:11:53, 2005-08-07 (UTC)

picture

Maybe a better diagram of clubbing would be this http://www.merck.com/media/mmhe2/figures/fg039_1.gif —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.104.105.106 (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I agree the picture should be changed. It's kind of ambiguous, enough to scare me into finding a better picture on google to make sure my nails weren't clubbed. Jstanierm 21:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Me too! Ha ha. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.62.255.251 (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A great picture illustrating the Schamroth's test: http://www.tafm.org.tw/Data/011/237/D10.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eeensayn (talk • contribs) 02:30, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Schamroth's test really should have a picture or diagram (though I don't know of a public domain source). Wapiti (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Periosteal reaction article

I just ran across an orphaned article on periosteal reaction that contains info similar to the HPOA and HOA sections of this article, including some decent pictures of radiographs. I'm not sure if it should be merged, as each article contains info unique to each subject, but maybe at least those sections should. --Joelmills 22:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC) I think the red line corresponds to a normal knail as it has a larger angle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.1.224.49 (talk) 22:27, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Emphysema

Why Emphysema is not associated with Clubbing? I saw that Konstantin Chernenko who suffered from Emphysema also had Clubbing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Superzohar (talk • contribs) 09:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

congenital

there was no section mentioning this could also be inherited... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.97.120 (talk) 10:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

I'm not medically trained, but isn't the last line of the lead where it says "Idiopathic clubbing can also occur and in 60% of cases there is no associated underlying disease." Now, doesn't "idiopathic" mean that the condition has indeterminably occurred, therefore in 100% of cases there's no underlying disease? Were it to say something to the effect that 40% of people had prior serious medical conditions, but no clear connections to the clubbing, but the effect was deemed to be related, but uncertain (obviously prosally, that needs to be better, but that message, while a little more nebulous, is more likely to give a truer depiction of idiopathic clubbing. --rm 'w a vu 07:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not just fingers, and not just nails

I believe digital clubbing is a more accurate name than nail clubbing, as this does not only affect the nails (whereas the nails are part of the digits). Secondly, the first sentence says it is a deformity of the fingers and fingernails: digital clubbing can also affect the toes. Here's a suitable, free to view reference: ^[1]

Thanks and adjusted. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:26, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Rutherford, JD (14 May 2013). "Digital clubbing". Circulation. 127 (19): 1997–9. PMID 23671180.

Description

I find it surprising that the intro to the article makes no attempt to describe what clubbing actually is. I also found the actual description (late in the page) hard to follow: I can't tell even from the diagram what angle is being measured to be < 165°. I think it might be made clearer by putting side views of normal and clubbed nails next to each other. Hv (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. I came here to say the same thing - the article doesn't explain or describe what the symptom is that it's talking about. GeoEvan (talk) 20:46, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nipple

That picture at the bottom clearly shows the guy’s nipple. lol. Is that really necessary? 136.62.154.109 (talk) 04:07, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Rutherford, JD (14 May 2013). "Digital clubbing". Circulation. 127 (19): 1997–9. PMID 23671180.

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