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[edit]someone pls improve the article, i'm off temporarily. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
The article has no new information than Eega. Should merge with the article and create a section? Nadesai (talk) 06:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- No. Article still under construction, and will look much different later. moreover, different reviews and slightly different crew. You want, merge Eega with this. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:51, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. It is a bilingual with only slight difference in the supporting actors.99 percent of the film is dubbed.Even Gaganam and Payanam need to be merged. Raghavan(Talk) 13:12, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- No. Bollywood film dubs are traditionally separate articles. There are lots of other separate pages for dubbed movies you'd have to merge. --STUART (talk) 01:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Sir, Naan Ee is a straight Tamil language film, which was shot simultaneously in Telugu as Eega. BTW, it is not a Bollywood film (Bollywood means only Hindi films). Kailash29792 (talk) 03:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Strong Merge
Almosteverything in this article is a clone of the telugu article.It should be noted that User:Kailash29792 just pasted the whole info from the telugu article(Please see this version of the telugu article for confirmation).Since then, literallynothingnot much has been done to improve or transform the article.The only difference I find between the two articles is the replacement of Eega with Naan Ee :). It would be better if we just merge this one with the main article and mention it in a separate section(preferably the first section with heading other versions or something similar).Having two article having the same information is just a waste.Why kill another server kitten? TheStrikeΣagle 14:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: tending to Yes. The cast is just slightly different. The problem is, how to select the article title, or how to retain all original titles, as everything else wouldn't be justified. After all, these are two different films.--Dravidianhero (talk) 23:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- How about create an article named Fly (2012 film), taking both films in it? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:40, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- That would be a good solution, if there is an official English translation.--Dravidianhero (talk) 09:26, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- There is no need to change the title of the article.Eega will be just fine.And for the titles and cast difference, something like Scary Movie (film series) can be followed.Fly would make very little sense in my opinion. TheStrikeΣagle 10:41, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- We cant merge these 2 articles as this one is a bilingual, instead it is better to let the articles unmerged which is followed in the case of Gaganam and Payanam. Remember, this film is a major success in both Tamil and Telugu and the merging of these 2 articles would lead to unwanted complications and drastic consequences. So i suggest to keep them as they are now. Moreover, we can do a thing. Under the coloumn "See Also", suggest Eega as telugu version of Naan Ee in the article Naan Ee and Naan Ee as tamil version of Eega in the article Eega. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 10:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- In that case Pavanjandhyala, pls update the article with maximum info to prove the difference. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:04, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Pavanjandhyala because i like his point of view at this situation and Kailash too replied in polite manner and what he told is also right. Both we can take, these good suggestions in this conversation. Raghusri (talk) 12:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- What about following solution: As Rajamouli is from Telugu industry, we could have as main article Eega. In case of Payanam it would be main article Payanam as Prakash Raj works mostly in Tamil films. Further we should make in the article clearly visible that this film was shot in more languages. So let's say "Eega is a South Indian film", "Payanam is a South Indian film" and mention "simultaniously shot in Tamil and Telugu (under the title: Ganganam)", the language order depends on the main title.-- Dravidian Hero 20:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ah...finally someone got my point! Agree with you, Dravidianhero.For example, Vishwaroopam was simultaneously shot in Hindi but only Tamil article exists.In the same way, I propose single article for them. Cheers ⱾҾ 01:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that both films share the same article. Why can't it be titled Fly (2012 film) is the only question (whether the title is official or not), so that both films get due weight? In fact, Naan Ee alone was one of the highest grossing Tamil films of the year, beating even big budgets like Billa II and that establishes its notability. Anyway, just do anything that ends for the best. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's completely out of question to use an unofficial title. Wikipedia:Article titles has a crucial criteria: Naturalness – Titles are those that readers are likely to look for or search with as well as those that editors naturally use to link from other articles. Such titles usually convey what the subject is actually called in English. The Tamil name of the film would differ in this case "I, the fly" as opposed to "Fly" in Telugu. A redirect to Fly would look too artificial.-- Dravidian Hero 15:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Payanam can be the main article since Prakash Raj predominantly appears in Tamil cinema. But what about Nagarjuna...? Nagarjuna is a veteran in telugu cinema, he also shares an equally-important role in that movie and hence we can also make Gaganam as the main article on the basis of Star Approach. But this would be wrong practically. The same happens with the case of Eega and Naan Ee. It is a Bilingual i.e. shot simultaneously. just seeing at the point that S. S. Rajamouli is a telugu director, we cant merge these two popular articles. Moreover, Eega won two National awards recently and possibly this is the main difference we can show. please dont run on showing that the articles have same content. Please explain, when a film is simultaneously shot, actors simultaneously enacted the scenes, the music is scored simultaneously, all production and post-production works are done together, how one can show Dissimilarity...? It is their notability among the sections of the people which forces us to maintain these two articles separable. Thus, this free encyclopedia should maintain these two articles with reference to the drastic consequences which would be faced after their merging. Anyway, after reading this, please choose the best option after careful examination. And also Kailash, the tile Fly (2012 film) would may or may not add weight to these two, but would definitely create priority problems and further confusions, leading to much more complications. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- @Pavan Just for info, the hero,heroine(part),director,producer,music director,editor are all telugu. TheStrikeΣagle 15:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see enough dissimilarities to justify separate articles. Those differences could be clearly described in a merged article, also regarding the success rates. I would also point to Strike Eagle's comment about the whole crew being from Telugu industry, which is significant enough for me.-- Dravidian Hero 18:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Payanam can be the main article since Prakash Raj predominantly appears in Tamil cinema. But what about Nagarjuna...? Nagarjuna is a veteran in telugu cinema, he also shares an equally-important role in that movie and hence we can also make Gaganam as the main article on the basis of Star Approach. But this would be wrong practically. The same happens with the case of Eega and Naan Ee. It is a Bilingual i.e. shot simultaneously. just seeing at the point that S. S. Rajamouli is a telugu director, we cant merge these two popular articles. Moreover, Eega won two National awards recently and possibly this is the main difference we can show. please dont run on showing that the articles have same content. Please explain, when a film is simultaneously shot, actors simultaneously enacted the scenes, the music is scored simultaneously, all production and post-production works are done together, how one can show Dissimilarity...? It is their notability among the sections of the people which forces us to maintain these two articles separable. Thus, this free encyclopedia should maintain these two articles with reference to the drastic consequences which would be faced after their merging. Anyway, after reading this, please choose the best option after careful examination. And also Kailash, the tile Fly (2012 film) would may or may not add weight to these two, but would definitely create priority problems and further confusions, leading to much more complications. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
This ultra-reliable source [1] is one of the only ways to expand Naan Ee article to stop it from merging with Eega, the other being the critical reviews exclusive to the Tamil version. If no-one can develop the production section with the source I gave, just go on and merge. I'm out of the discussion for now. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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