Talk:NEPOMUK (software)
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[edit]Is this project still active? Any of the links to NEPOMUK doesn't work, and there is no mention about it in KDE4 lately.. (last reference is from July) I also cannot find any explanation anywhere why the site is down. Samohyl Jan 06:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
It is very active and part of the core of KDE4, see e.g. http://nepomuk.kde.org and http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/nepomuk and http://techbase.kde.org And just today KDE 4.1 beta2 got released, see http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1-beta2.php, and within the "Dolphin matures" section you are able to see "The first bits and pieces of the NEPOMUK Social" :-)
- Yes, I already noticed (in February, I think). But by the time I wrote that comment, the original site was down for quite long, so it really looked like it's not active anymore. Samohyl Jan (talk) 05:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
More detail needed
[edit]Should be more about what it is, and what people would use it for... AnonMoos (talk) 13:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- The lead could do with being translated into English instead of jargon, too... 86.154.8.126 (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- Ditto that -- I've read the whole article, and still have not the foggiest clue what this is, only that it has something vaguely to do with CTO buzz-speak. This entry, in its current state, borders on useless for us mere mortals... Befuddled, -- Erik Anderson 98.225.16.161 (talk) 07:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- Seconded. 173.81.170.39 (talk) 03:04, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ditto that -- I've read the whole article, and still have not the foggiest clue what this is, only that it has something vaguely to do with CTO buzz-speak. This entry, in its current state, borders on useless for us mere mortals... Befuddled, -- Erik Anderson 98.225.16.161 (talk) 07:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Gnome Tracker
[edit]I believe Gnome Tracker belongs to the list of software that uses Nepomuk.--78.48.71.81 (talk) 06:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Virtuoso Universal Server?
[edit]I just started the KDE desktop over SSH and had a look at the shell output. It includes a reference to Virtuoso Universal Server which is used by Nepomuk services. Should Virtuoso be mentioned as a part of Nepomuk? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Did NEPOMUK cost 17 millions?
[edit]I just changed the way the european grant related to NEPOMUK is mentioned in the article, which was extremely misleading and prone to misunderstandings of reader. Of course, the references to the official european project description (with the amount-of-funding information) were valuable and are still there. The reason why mentioning a 17M€ cost for the NEPOMUK project is misleading is that NEPOMUK is commonly understood to refer to the software implementation as part of the KDE project, instead of the research project as a whole. It is the research project, not the KDE software, that received this amount of funding, to be shared among the various actors (listed on the Cordis webpage: universities in Sweden, Greece, Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland, along with industrial actors such as IBM, Thales, Hewlett-Packard, etc.), to fund various relatively independent research on the semantic web and various industrial or commercial development. It is unclear how much money actually went to the development of Nepomuk-in-KDE, but probably not more than a few person-year worth of academic's salary. It is certainly very good that, at the grant level, EU is transparent about research funding, but it should not be used mislead Wikipedia readers to blame and shame a software project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasche (talk • contribs) 13:20, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Gasche is right. The KDE version did only cost a fraction of the whole project. Mandriva Linux was the partner in the consortium who funded the KDE development part. It was Stéphane Laurière for project management and Sebastian Trüg for development. The salaries of 2 people for 3 years plus overhead, this was the part that was surely funded. Sebastian was the main developer of the KDE part. All the other money went, as said above, in various other research and industrial projects. I know it a bit as I was one of the authors of the original project suggestion, I was lead for workpackage 2 for DFKI, and I founded that startup that is mentioned on the wikipage. But I know, "citation needed", so I found that official deliverable 3 or workpackage 11 of the NEPOMUK project to the EU was actually cleared as public, this document contains a summary of what Mandriva and Sebastian did. It basically backs up the discussion above by saying "the KDE part was only a small part of the money and it delivered a lot". You problably find it somewhere over in the EU servers, but I have to happen it here on my laptop, so I re-uploaded the deliverable to my private website, you find it here: http://www.leobard.net/2005/NEPOMUK/D11.3-2ndPrototypeSocialSemanticHelpdesk-v1.0.pdf . Interestingly, our old server at nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org is down and I am not motivated to contact the admins to bring it up ...again. Leobard (talk) 21:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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