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Toby Keith

In the section for the music video, it mentioned Toby Keith as a "future superstar". While Keith's breakthrough hit was 1999's "How Do You Like Me Now?", he was just getting started and already having hits at the time Lawrence's "Home" music video was released in 1993, with his debut single "Should've Been a Cowboy" going to Number One on the country charts, and the follow-up, "He Ain't Worth Missing", later cracking the Top Five. However, Tim McGraw and Shania Twain would indeed later become future superstars, starting with the releases of their albums Not a Moment Too Soon and The Woman in Me, in 1994 and 1995, respectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.22.43.42 (talk) 11:57, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Given how Keith bounced from label to label throughout the '90s, I'd say that he was nowhere near "superstar" level until "How Do You Like Me Now". Calling him a "future superstar" in 1993 seems correct to me.

Now it makes sense, because Keith was on Mercury for his first 4 studio albums (self-titled, Boomtown, Blue Moon, and Dream Walkin', as well as a first greatest hits volume and a Christmas album in between); while they produced several Top Tens and three Number One singles on the country charts during the '90s, by "How Do You Like Me Now?", he moved to Dreamworks Nashville, and the song would stay at the top of the chart for 5 consecutive weeks in 2000, indeed leading him into "superstar" status. Another song that would lead him into "superstar" status was "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue," which he wrote shortly after the 9/11 attacks in 2001.

His self-titled album was Mercury, Boomtown was Polydor, Christmas to Christmas was Mercury, Blue Moon was A&M (although it started at Polydor and they released the first single), Dream Walkin' and Greatest hits were Mercury. --Khajidha (talk) 20:33, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, coming from not only a Toby fan since 1993, but also a music aficionado. Each studio album, except for "Christmas to Christmas", would either land a Top Ten or Number One single on the country charts during the '90s, before "How Do You Like Me Now?" was released.

Having a #1, even having a #1 from each album doesn't make you a superstar. Superstars have a popular culture impact. People who don't even know their music know of them. Before How Do You Like Me Now? TK was a successful country musician. After that (and the Dixie Chicks feud), he was a superstar. --Khajidha (talk) 21:02, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The feud with the Dixie Chicks came in August 2002, and lasted for exactly a year.

Not sure how that is supposed to be relevant to what I said. The release of How Do You Like Me Now? signaled an increased support from his record label, more people were talking about TK than had been for several years. Then "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue" brought him attention from outside the country fanbase. This was further cemented with the feud with the Dixie Chicks, who had major exposure outside the country fanbase at the time. Before "HDYLMN?", he wasn't a "superstar". After the DC feud, he was. When the transition fully occurred is unclear. But he certainly wasn't a superstar in 1993. --Khajidha (talk) 16:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

While he wasn't a superstar in 1993, like I said, he was just starting his career with two successful Top Five hits on the country charts at the same time Lawrence's video was released that same year. So, to put it this way, he was just a newcomer that ended up not only becoming one of country music's most successful stars, but has had 20 #1 hits on the country charts, his most recent being "Made in America" in 2011. People that listen to music outside of country, as well as pop culture, however, know him from his feud with the Dixie Chicks, as well as his 2011 Top Ten viral hit smash "Red Solo Cup", which also peaked at #15 on the Billboard Hot 100. (To be honest, I don't know how many Top Ten singles he has scored in his career total). Also, several of his singles since "HDYLMN?!" have become multi-week #1 hits, most notably "I Love This Bar" (2003), "American Soldier" (2004), "My List" (2002) and "Beer for My Horses" (2003), so it makes me wonder, were new fans at the time requesting Toby's singles, that never listened to him before? They must have!

I would say the transition from "successful country singer" to "superstar" occurred in the early 2000s.

Agreed. So, are we good with the current wording?--Khajidha (talk) 15:51, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I am a diehard Toby fan, and it looks like you are, too! I just was confused at first, but I understand much better now! (And people from pop culture know him as a longtime spokesperson for Ford Trucks as well, which began in 2002.)