Talk:My Neighbor Totoro/GA1
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Reviewer: Sims2aholic8 (talk · contribs) 12:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Taking on this article for review. Will read through the article over the next couple of days and provide my commentary in the table below. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Have reviewed article against some of the sections below, will continue to review over the coming days. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 21:48, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
@VickKiang: I have added some additional comments/replies to some of the points addressed, as well as new points from the recent edits from other users. There are still outstanding points below which require addressing. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
@VickKiang: I have flagged in the below the issues which still require addressing. Please ensure these are covered off at your earliest convenience. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 21:39, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. |
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1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. |
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2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | No issues here | |
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). |
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2c. it contains no original research. | * "for a total of $41,076,708" in "Box office" has no ref
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | No instances of copyvio or plagiarism detected. | |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | Happy that the main aspects of the subject have been covered broadly. | |
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Happy that this point is covered adequately. | |
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | No issues here. | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | No notes. | |
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | No notes. | |
7. Overall assessment. | Assessment now complete. Several areas remain outstanding against the GA criteria as outlined above, particularly around prose, sourcing and OR. Placing this review on hold to allow the nominator time to enact any changes I have suggested above. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:41, 23 March 2023 (UTC) |
This GA review has now been ongoing for a month, and still a number of the issues I presented have not been addressed. I will give this another week to be resolved, otherwise I will close the review as a fail. Pinging VickKiang for awareness. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:20, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Sims2aholic8: I think I've replied to all of the concerns marked with n.b. If you have any outstanding verfiability, no OR, or prose concerns relevant to 1a and 1b following my changes please bring these up as well.
- Additionally, I'm unsure whether I accidentally messed up the template of this but somehow for me the GA review now displays 2c as merely "pending" in bold instead of displaying the suggestions. Could you have a look at this as well? Thanks for your time and patience. VickKiang (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for continuing to work on this article. I am completing one final review of the whole article and will list any additional points which need to be addressed below.
- Within the lead, Jerry Beck is listed as co-producer of the original English dub but he's not listed anywhere else in the article.
- Removed.
- The Australian and UK releases of the second dub in the lead are also not listed anywhere else in the article.
- Moved the Australian release, which doesn't seem due weight to be ledeworthy, to the body
, will try to find a ref for the UK claim and then move that to the body as well soon. VickKiang (talk) 21:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC), for the UK one I could not find RS backing up this so have removed for the time being. VickKiang (talk) 07:39, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- Moved the Australian release, which doesn't seem due weight to be ledeworthy, to the body
- Discrepancy between the total worldwide box office gross in the lead ($41m) and in the article ($30.4m)
- The discrepancy is because the $30.4 million figure is only for box office
since 2002
. I've added another ref from SCMP here, a 2021 article which notes the box reports to be $41 million, which is the same as the lead stat. VickKiang (talk) 04:12, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- The discrepancy is because the $30.4 million figure is only for box office
- Home video sales also has a discrepancy, with $277m in lead vs. $202m for VHS and DVD in Japan and $64.5m in US
- I couldn't find a ref, as such, I've removed the stat in the lede and reworded so the line now reads
My Neighbor Totoro has grossed over $41 million worldwide at the box office as of September 2019; the film also grossed significantly more from home video sales and merchandise.
Is this acceptable? VickKiang (talk) 07:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- I couldn't find a ref, as such, I've removed the stat in the lede and reworded so the line now reads
- The $1.142 billion for merchandise is not supported anywhere in the article, with only various yen values for certain years in the merchandise section
- Removed.
- There's a reference to cameo appearances in video games, however nothing in present in the article
- I've also removed the statement that Totoro had cameos in video games. I couldn't find anything in the paragraph (
Totoro has made cameo appearances in many Studio Ghibli films, including Pom Poko, Kiki's Delivery Service, and Whisper of the Heart. The character has also appeared in other anime series and films, including one episode of the Gainax television series His and Her Circumstances. Miyazaki uses Totoro as a part of his logo for Studio Ghibli. Totoro also makes a cameo appearance in the Pixar film Toy Story 3 (2010) but was not included in Toy Story 4 due to licensing problems. Toy Story 3's art director Daisuke Tsutsumi is married to Miyazaki's niece, who inspired the character Mei in My Neighbor Totoro
) that supports it, but either way it seems quite minor and not of due weight for lede inclusion. VickKiang (talk) 06:48, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've also removed the statement that Totoro had cameos in video games. I couldn't find anything in the paragraph (
- Slight update for Rotten Tomatoes' aggregate now based on 57 reviews
- Done
- No references in the Legacy for Totoro's cameo appearances in other Ghibli films or in other media
- I've removed the mentions of the Ghibli cameos, which seem to be minor & unsourced trivia.
Will have a look at whether the other cameo mentions are trivial soon. VickKiang (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Apologies for my slow responses due to an illness. I've removed another piece of trivia for Totoro being included in His and Her Circumstances, so this should be it.VickKiang (talk) 04:12, 5 June 2023 (UTC)- I've also tweaked the lead wording slightly, see my edit summary here. VickKiang (talk) 04:12, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've removed the mentions of the Ghibli cameos, which seem to be minor & unsourced trivia.
- The Stage adaption section could also do with an update to include mention of the play's second season from November 2023
- Added (though I just copied from My Neighbor Totoro (play) because I'm lazy...) VickKiang (talk) 07:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Every other section of the article is now fully compliant with the GA criteria. Once these points have been addressed I will be happy to promote this article to GA. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 19:50, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response, just a note that I might be slow in replying to other suggestions (I'll try to reply to two within 48 hours). Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 22:17, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Note I've also removed the statement that Totoro had cameos in video games. I couldn't find anything in the paragraph (Totoro has made cameo appearances in many Studio Ghibli films, including Pom Poko, Kiki's Delivery Service, and Whisper of the Heart. The character has also appeared in other anime series and films, including one episode of the Gainax television series His and Her Circumstances. Miyazaki uses Totoro as a part of his logo for Studio Ghibli. Totoro also makes a cameo appearance in the Pixar film Toy Story 3 (2010) but was not included in Toy Story 4 due to licensing problems. Toy Story 3's art director Daisuke Tsutsumi is married to Miyazaki's niece, who inspired the character Mei in My Neighbor Totoro
) that supports it, but either way it seems quite minor and not of due weight for lede inclusion. VickKiang (talk) 06:48, 24 May 2023 (UTC)- @Sims2aholic8: I think I've replied to all of your final comments. As you know I've been taking an extended semi-wikibreak because of RL, so sorry for the slow pace. VickKiang (talk) 07:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- @VickKiang: Thank you for progressing with this, I'm happy with all the changes that have been made. There is however a "failed verification" tag on the first sentence of the "English dubs" section which has since been added and which will need to be fixed before I can pass this article. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:45, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Sims2aholic8: Thanks for your quick reply; I've replaced that ref with Kotaku, which is RS per WP:VG/RS for video games at least. It should IMO be mostly similar for films, the entry do advice caution for blog or geek like articles, but this seems fine and is used for a IMO not overly contentious routine date claim. Also, it states
in 1989, just a year after its original debut, Totoro was adapted for English audiences by Streamline Pictures. The movie was exclusive to transatlantic passengers flying with Japan Airlines
instead of in 1988, so I've changed the date here as well. VickKiang (talk) 11:15, 6 June 2023 (UTC)- @VickKiang: Thanks for the quick fix there. I'm happy that the new source provided is reliable for this purpose, and I'm now happy that all aspects of the GA review have been met and that all issues above have been resolved. With this I am very pleased to promote this article to GA. Great work all around and thank you for being as responsive as possible under the circumstances. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Sims2aholic8: Thanks for your quick reply; I've replaced that ref with Kotaku, which is RS per WP:VG/RS for video games at least. It should IMO be mostly similar for films, the entry do advice caution for blog or geek like articles, but this seems fine and is used for a IMO not overly contentious routine date claim. Also, it states
- @VickKiang: Thank you for progressing with this, I'm happy with all the changes that have been made. There is however a "failed verification" tag on the first sentence of the "English dubs" section which has since been added and which will need to be fixed before I can pass this article. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:45, 6 June 2023 (UTC)