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Release date problems

Heartfox, I would like to figure out where things went so wrong with the release dates. Your removal of the notional Australia and Germany dates got me thinking. I'm assuming you looked through the Glatzer book hosted at archive.org and found nothing about these dates, in which case I applaud your work. I looked through the Google Books version of Glatzer and saw the song discussed on pages 72 and 77. Nothing in the book talked about the single's release dates, as far as I could tell. So where did those dates come from?

15+ years ago, Max24 changed the release date from February 3, 1998, to December 22, 1997, without citing a reference.[1] The next month, again without reference, Max24 changed it to be December 8 in Australia and Germany.[2] Max24, where did you get that information? Why the changes? Why specify two countries? A year later, Max24 added the Glatzer book without a page number, to bolster the unreferenced date.[3] To me, this looks like a fake citation, as Glatzer only talks about the choosing of the song and its recording.

So let's work on the single release date, and decide what we will tell the reader. The December 6, 1997, edition of Billboard says on page 85 that "My Heart Will Go On" is a new pop single from 550 Music and Epic, mentioning a cassette single format. The writer Larry Flick (we cite the PDF) says the single will benefit "every station it graces", implying radio stations and a radio-only release. (The standard retail single release in 1997 was on CD single format, not cassette.) Supporting such a finding is the text from the January 24, 1998, issue of Billboard which says on page 92: "In addition to its tremendous run at theaters, the film has been bolstered by the Dion single 'My Heart Will Go On', from her album Let's Talk About Love, which was released to radio in December. The song was written by Horner with lyrics by Will Jennings and will be released to retail Feb. 10." So we have a December radio release followed by a February 10 retail release. Does that make this a 1997 single or a 1998 single? Binksternet (talk) 00:26, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Binksternet: I went through the entire book on archive.org a few months ago and found no release dates for any of her songs. The reason why I was so frustrated in the edit summary is because this book is cited for release dates in virtually every 1990s Dion song article, which means a lot of corrections/removals are necessary. However, I did find a new source supporting a 1997 release. According to this November 22, 1997, Music & Media article, "My Heart Will Go On" was scheduled for a November 24, 1997, release in G/S/A (Germany, Switzerland, Austria) (German-speaking areas). The quote is "To take maximum advantage of the promotion campaign for Titanic, the G/S/A countries will be the only European territories to release My Heart Will Go On as the second single from the album on November 24." I believe November 24 is the date that should be given to readers, as it is the earliest known and from a reliable source. Heartfox (talk) 01:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, good sleuthing on your part! Nov 24 it is. I hope the removal of Glatzer for release dates is nearly finished. Binksternet (talk) 03:05, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Attribution problem

Two big issues with this article. First, the song should be presented as a single from the Titanic Soundtrack (released November 18, 1997) not as a single from Celine Dion's album (released a week later on November 24, 1997). Second, the first line of the article needs to credit the song to James Horner and Will Jennings, not to Celine Dion. Horner and Jennings created the song and they alone received the Academy Award for the song. They hired Celine Dion to sing it. For comparison, the first sentence of the wikipedia page for Top Gun properly credits the film to Ridley Scott, not to Tom Cruise. Even though Tom Cruise is most commonly associated with the film, Ridley Scott as the film's Director is credited as its creator, not Tom Cruise who was hired to act in it. The same is true for this song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iheartempirestate (talk • contribs) 19:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I addressed your concern by havin Titanic shown as the first release, and by saying that the song was "performed by" Dion rather "by" her. Binksternet (talk) 23:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]