Talk:Mustafa Al-Bassam

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Would be great to include a picture of Tflow in the sidebar but I'm not sure how to check if any exist on wiki's servers.

Considering all press photographs are usually copyrighted, you might opt to ask him for permission to use a personal one, unless someone happens to have released a photograph that is redistributable.

Taking into account

most of the sources referenced refer to "tflow" rather than his real name (due to naming restrictions when he was under 18)
the page name of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topiary_%28hacktivist%29
mildly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Subjects_notable_only_for_one_event (I realize the last condition is debatable, but the first reason I've given here should be enough reasoning)

I believe this page needs to be renamed to "tflow", and "Mustafa Al-Bassam" should be redirected to "tflow", and I've also linked the main LulzSec page to here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.55.30.164 (talk) 10:32, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the reason that page is called Topiary (Hacktivist) is because it was written before he was arrested and publicly exposed as "Jake Davis". Had that page been made after his plead guilty and did time in prison, it probably would have been named as "Jake Davis (Topiary)". I was taking "Hector Xavier Monsegur" into account when naming this article. His page is written with the assumption that his real name should be linked to his activities, as I feel with Al-Bassam. He technically is no longer "Tflow", having only used that as one of his aliases throughout the LulzSec attacks. It seems more suitable to list a real name to show more notability than an internet pseudonym which anyone can acquire and use on any IRC network. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StanleyKerbrick (talk • contribs) 20:07, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The time the article is written is irrelevant; Wikipedia operates on a "consensus by sources" basis. See the Wikipedia guideline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28people%29#Nicknames.2C_pen_names.2C_stage_names.2C_cognomens which states "The name used most often to refer to a person in reliable sources is generally the one that should be used as the article title, even if it is not their "real" name, and even if it appears to pass judgement on the person (as with Alfred the Great)". This is often the case with stage names, for example the article for Curtis James Jackson III is "50 Cent".

Also, note that I am not suggesting to completely remove the real name from this article, but to rename it and list it at the top of the article, the above policy states "Page names are hardly suitable to clarify, explain or in any other way elaborate on the composition of a name. [...] The page name uses preferably the most commonly used version of the name of that person, other variants can be included as redirects, and if needed clarified in the body of the article." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.242.201 (talk) 21:35, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dl2000 reverted my edits - I'm starting a new section here to discuss

User Dl2000 recently reverted my edits to this page - I'm starting a new section here to discuss.

I have revamped this article because the previous article contained many poorly sourced (and self-published) fact, such as Twitter or blog posts, and other primary sources. All of the facts in the article are sourced from mainstream secondary sources, which is in accordance to Wikipedia's verifiability policy. Furthermore, the article had not been updated properly since 2013 when it was created. I updated this article to include the subject's research contributions, which there have been new secondary sources about since then, and to rebalance the article to contain a balanced amount of facts and information about the subject's hacking activities, and scientific activities. Furthermore, the previous version of this article contained a significant amount of puffery language, such as "having done much of the actual hacking work" which is unsourced. I believe the new version is significantly improved as it is more objective.

As such, I have updated the page, and I have started this discussion in order to gather feedback.

Hyyhhyyh (talk) 21:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]