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Songs about...

Any thoughts on whether songs about the state should get mentioned in these "Music of [state]" articles? Jkelly 04:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I've thought about it before, but decided against it. My main concern is that few people are likely to have written much about them. I can't think of any Minnesota examples off the top of my head, but take a hypothetical Dylan song called "Home in Minneapolis"... What would we put in this article, then? "Bob Dylan's "Home in Minnesota" is a song about Minnesota" -- anything more would be OR, unless there happens to be a review that talks about how that song depicts and reflects Minnesota, which I imagine there rarely is. I believe there are film articles a la List of films set in Minnesota, and I think something similar should be done here (List of songs about Minnesota). A paragraph might be useful for a few special cases, though, like Music of New York City and Music of California, since songs about those places are so common and so iconic (probably relatively easy to find something verifiable to cite too). Tuf-Kat 04:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Good point. What about state anthems? Jkelly 04:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
They're in the infobox, but I've never found anything with much of a story behind them. Music of Maryland is featured, and mentions "Maryland, My Maryland" in the history section, but doesn't really cover the song, which is marginally notable outside of being a state song (and that's more than most state songs). Music of New Hampshire and some other stubby ones talk about the state song, but that's only because they're so stubby and there's not much else to write about. I thought about putting "Hail! Minnesota" into the history section, since we actually have an article on it, but I couldn't think of a way to work it in without it looking like filler, and without some kind of historical analysis of the song, that's all it would be. Tuf-Kat 04:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
For what it's worth, after reading the above I spent some time thinking about how to work it in and came to much the same conclusion. Jkelly 18:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Where are the Jayhawks?

C'mon guys! The Jayhawks were very influentual in developing the Folk-Pop sound that has made its way into the mainstream... Scaife 12:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Add them where you see fit. ReverendG 04:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Cited book not given the reference

"unterberger" in the footnotes doe snot refer to any book listed anywhere in th earticle... Circeus 15:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Has he even been to Minnesota? --Grocer 19:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Presumably. He is or was signed to Rhymesayers. Tuf-Kat 01:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey....what about:

Dillinger Four and The Soviettes! These are two prolific and highly influential rock bands from Minnesota! Both are still active and still worth mentioning! I'm a huge fan of both bands, and would love to see them included in this article! Madangry 01:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Self explanatory. ~ UBeR 08:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Venues

Added info on venues. Seemed seriously incomplete to me, though there may be more duplicate mentions elsewhere in the article. The text may need rearranging in terms of defunct venues versus venues that currently exist. I am a bit confused about the bit of defunct places (the cinema?, Perpich (music?!)) so I left it in but I guess they are way before my time. There may need to be a bit more distinction as to the type of music each venue specializes in (Foundation is a high-style techno/pop club, 400 Bar is a divey alt rock bar, kind of odd to put them in the same sentence). Some venues I left out (Suburban World Theater, Cedar Cultural Center, Whole Music Club, various bars) because they sort of just add music shows whenever they feel like it and are not necessarily music venues as a primary. Sorry I have zippo greater mn info and I'm not keen on the folk music stuff (does it happen outdoors?) in terms of music as a whole. My perspective is more in regards to rock/pop/punk and classical. Btw other parts of the article also seem incomplete or not very well written, I'd advise to protect the FA status to do some editing. Davumaya 09:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Uncited additions

Hello. I accidentally reverted a change made by a good editor, my apologies. But I do think that all recent additions since the 2007 Wikiproject Minnesota meetup need to be reviewed. Blogs are for example not acceptable sources in a featured article, right? -Susanlesch 22:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree that blogs aren't acceptable, my bad. I would definitely agree with reviewing some of the recent changes. The hip hop section has started looking really shabby with red links and no citations. I'll probably take another stab at it in a couple of days. Eóin 01:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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Relevant

Almost every red link in this article seems to be a venue that is not individually notable. This whole article feels like a big directory of mostly irrelevant venues. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 02:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)