Talk:Museum of Contemporary Art

Hatnotes and See also

This page is a list of museums with names that include with "Museum of Contemporary Art". Looking at What links here, it's referenced by a number of hatnotes in articles whose titles are already disambiguated, like Museum of Contemporary Art Tokyo and Museum of Contemporary Art Denver. Per WP:NAMB and WP:DABLINK, none of these disamb hatnotes are needed, because the titles are not ambiguous. Another group of links to here is in the See also sections of museum articles. This is more reasonable – other contemporary art museums could well count as related content. But in that case, I think the link should be to List of contemporary art museums, not here. Readers interested in related content would be interested in contemporary art museums as such, not just the ones with "Museum of Contemporary Art" in their names.
I think this page does have a valid reason to exist – readers might enter just "Museum of Contemporary Art" when they are looking for a specific museum. But readers interested in museums of contemporary art in general would be better served if we directed them to the article about that. So unless anyone objects, I am planning to

Remove the disamb hatnotes from articles with titles that don't need to be disambiguated
Change the "See also" links to this page to links to List of contemporary art museums
Copy any museums that are listed on this page but not List of contemporary art museums to List of contemporary art museums, which would improve that article by making it a more complete list.

I would also like to hear people's opinion about wherther items like Contemporary Arts Museum Houston belong on this page. I think they don't and should be moved to List of contemporary art museums. Disamb pages are about article titles, not article content. Granted that there is a redirect from Contemporary Art Museum to here. But if this page wants to be a disamb page for "Contemporary Art Museum" then it should mention Contemporary Art Museum at the top. Since it doesn't, I think that Contemporary Art Museum should be edited to reirect to List of contemporary art museums. – Margin1522 (talk) 07:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dab pages serve a different function from lists, and if someone knows the exact name of the museum they are looking for but not the form of the Wikipedia title then it's frustrating if we take them to a long list of museums of assorted names. There needs to be either a disambiguation page for Contemporary Art Museum, probably explicitly including Contemporary Arts Museum (currently redirecting to Houston although there's another in Isfahan), or, less helpfully, a scope note showing that they are included in the existing dab page at Museum of Contemporary Art and entries here for all institutions of that name. PamD 10:16, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Have added a redirect hatnote to Contemporary Arts Museum Houston as a quick fix - though I'm not sure that Contemporary Arts Museum Isfahan is at the right title anyway. PamD 10:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: Thanks. I see that in the meantime the Isfahan article has been moved to Museum of Contemporary Art, Isfahan, so that can go in this page. I agree that a disambiguation page for Contemporary Art Museum would be helpful, so if it's OK I will go ahead and repurpose that page (currently a redirect to here) as a disambiguation page in its own right, explicitly including Houston. – Margin1522 (talk) 16:07, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have just finished doing all of the above – remove links without "Museum of Contemporary Art" in the titles, ensure that all new and old links on this page are listed in List of contemporary art museums, remove unnecessary dab hatnotes, convert Contemporary Art Museum to dab page, moving some titles from this page to there. I think both dab page are easier to read now. – Margin1522 (talk) 16:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]