Talk:Murder of Yadira Arroyo

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A fact from Murder of Yadira Arroyo appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 September 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the murderer of Yadira Arroyo was reportedly found mentally unfit to stand trial three times?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Yadira Arroyo.

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 05:40, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that it took six years for the murderer of Yadira Arroyo to go to trial? Source: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/us/new-york-emt-murder-guilty-verdict/index.html
- Reviewed: Do not need to do QPQ yet.

Created by Lettler (talk). Self-nominated at 19:10, 6 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Murder of Yadira Arroyo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - See below
Other problems: - Unfortunately, the hook is factually incorrect and potentially misleading. The trial started in 2022, so it only took five years to go to trial. This is even if we disregard the fact that he was found mentally unfit to stand trial on two occasions in 2018 - had he not been found unfit to stand trial, the case could have gone to trial in one year. Perhaps it would be more interesting to note that the case took five years to go to trial because he was found mentally unfit to stand trial three times.

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Lettler, please see my comments above. This article is in good shape, but I cannot approve the hook as it's currently written. Epicgenius (talk) 13:36, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How about this, Epicgenius? ALT1: * ... that the murderer of Yadira Arroyo was found mentally unfit to stand trial three times? Source: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/us/new-york-emt-murder-guilty-verdict/index.html Or this? ALT2: * ... that the murderer of Yadira Arroyo stood trial five years after the attack because he was found mentally unfit to stand trial three times? Source: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/us/new-york-emt-murder-guilty-verdict/index.html These should rectify the problems you highlighted. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 18:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've renumbered that second hook to ALT2 for clarity and fixed a spelling error in the first hook. (There was also a formatting error that caused every subsequent nomination to appear in small text. I fixed all of these; hope you don't mind.) Anyway, I think both of these hooks are interesting enough and factually correct, so they would be good to go.

Epicgenius (talk) 18:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]