Talk:Murder of Dirang

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@NelsonLee20042020: I am not clear why this article's title includes the word "case". This article is about a murder of a child; to call it a "case" suggests the article is only going to be about a legal procedure, not a murder. Wikipedia Manual of Style already sets out a naming convention for citing and writing about legal cases which generally involves naming the opposing parties or using the form "Trial of <defendant>" in criminal matters. Scanning the headlines of the cited sources, only one uses the name "Dirang murder case" in the headline, other headlines either use the possessive form or omit the word "case", so we have a name like "Dirang's murder" in the headlines of several other articles. Reading the one news report that uses "Dirang murder case" as a headline, I find it refers to this murder as the "murder of Nurul Nadirah Abdullah" and that particular report is about a specific legal procedure remanding three suspects, so use of the word "case" in that headline is understandable as it is only abot the case before the court, not the murder itself. Since the report headline is not referring to the murder itself, only how the suspects were dealt with, I fail to understand how this one headline can then be used as this article's title. Simply plucking a name from a news report headline doesn't follow Wikipedia's naming conventions, generally, and more considerations are involved. There are several criteria for naming articles, and while using a using a commonly recognizable name is one of them, titles should also be consistently and concisely named. Also, Wikipedia's naming convention for murders is to name such articles as "Murder of <victim>". So I think this article is better titled Murder of Dirang, with a redirect from Murder of Nurul Nadirah Abdullah, which appears to be an alternative longer name also in common use. Since this is a new article, I am inclined to boldly move to this name, rather than requesting a page move, but thought you might like to comment before I do so. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 00:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok sure let's move it to a better title. Murder of Dirang is better since the victim was more often addressed by this nickname.

Murder of Nurul Nadirah Abdullah can be redirect.

Thank you for this discussion NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 00:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameron Dewe, I finished moving the page already. NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 02:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NelsonLee20042020: Excellent! Thank you. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameron Dewe You are welcome. Your edit on my other article murder of Noor Suzaily Mukhtar is appreciated too NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 11:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]