Talk:Murder of Alice Gross

This article was nominated for deletion on 26 September 2014 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because, as the article states, this is a very high profile missing person case; the Metropolitan Police's largest investigation since the 7 July 2005 London bombings. Met officers have travelled to Latvia in an attempt to find the missing prime suspect. Jim Michael (talk) 03:01, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... It's silly to think this article is about something which is unimportant, there are tonnes of references to Gross' disappearance, and it's at the center of a giant MET police search. --Corkiebuchek (talk) 04:25, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I entirely concur with the above comments. The case has similarities with the Milly Dowler and Sarah Payne cases which both have wikipedia entries.

It has been announced this morning, sadly, that a body has been found and that it IS a murder investigation. My heart goes out to the family and friends,

It is a very significant story in the UK. All these cases are murders of young girls by strangers ( or at least that is established in the other cases)

They are all clearly notable enough for articles. Neilj (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anorexia nervosa

Gross was diagnosed with this condition shortly before she went missing. It is reliably sourced and was prominently mentioned in the early days of the case. It was relevant because it made her more vulnerable. It made her appearance striking due to her being underweight and it was implied that it may have triggered her choosing to run away from home. We still don't know if she ran away from home prior to being murdered. Anorexics have a high suicide rate and some mainstream media sources implied she may have killed herself. It was only when the focus changed from missing person case to probable murder case that her anorexia was 'forgotten'. However, it's still relevant to the case. It also could have been crucial to the case in that she may have been too weak to run away from her killer due to malnutrition caused by her anorexia.

It's normal to mention a missing person's mental disorder, as is the case with Richey Edwards and the Disappearance of Iraena Asher, for example. What is the case for removing such information? Jim Michael (talk) 04:05, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That all sounds like WP:SYNTHESIS to me. The second source in the sentence that you want to add her anorexia says, "The parents of Alice, who suffers from anorexia, have renewed their plea for their daughter to come home amid increasing concerns for her welfare and her health." None of what you say above is in the source. She could have had any illness that required attention and her parents would understandably be concerned about her. If you want to add something to the article from a secondary reliable source that supports your WP:OR, fine, then do so, and make it clear in the article why anorexia is being mentioned rather than just being thrown into the article without any context. As it stands, it shouldn't be included.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the Times article entitled Missing Alice has anorexia. It quotes her mother: "Alice had been diagnosed with anorexia and was going through a tough time in a number of ways and we are wondering whether her disappearance had anything to do with that. That is the main reason why we have had such concern for her ........." I can't read the rest of the article, because it is paywalled and I don't have a subscription. The article prominently states her anorexia and states that her mother thought it was connected to her disappearance. If you think this article can be worded better, then you're welcome to do so - but don't remove relevant, reliably sourced info. Her anorexia was not a trivial side-issue. Jim Michael (talk) 02:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dates please

I am surprised that the Editors have not picked up on the fact that most of the dates mentioned here are lacking years and and only give month and day numbers.46.7.85.68 (talk) 12:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When describing events around the date of the murder is unnecessarily repetitious to keep adding the year, which is obvious from the context of the preceding text. Klbrain (talk) 09:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]