Talk:Murder conviction without a body/Archive 1

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Rewritten

I completely re-wrote the article. The major problem was the article was a coatrack for Aussie cases that involved the term (no offense to the Aussies, your hats are awesome =D). I'm sure there's more to be said, but right now all that's there is enough for a stub and pretty much the basic jist of the term. Kwsn(Ni!) 22:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Use of word "COAT-RACK" and Aussie bizarre

So what if all the cases presented are Aussie. Look at the place, an entire continent and only 15 million people. of course the chance for trial without body is higher, so of course there are famous cases from there involving it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.33.210 (talk) 06:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

True, but nearly all the article was about Australian examples. That's why I redid the entire article. Kwsn(Ni!) 15:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• They aren't now, in fact the bias is now rather towards the UK. It's a matter of sources, but feel free to pitch in. --Rodhullandemu 20:48, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Habeas corpus

There's really no relation of this article to that? Шизомби (talk) 14:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. habeas corpus is an ancient writ addressed to a person holding another in custody to account to the court for the legality of that custody; it's really nothing to do with the evidential requirements for a murder conviction, which is what this article is addressing. Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu 14:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The corpus delicti

The technical (i. e. Latin) term for the body of a crime is 'corpus delicti", but in murder cases that has come to mean the actual body of the victim. It used to be impossible in a murder case to prove a murder without a body, but it is accepted now that circumstantial evidence can prove not only the fact of death but the way it was done and who did it.

This came about in part because of a sensational story published around the turn of the 20th century called "The Corpus Delicti" by Melville Davidson Post, which can be read here: http://www.classicreader.com/book/856/1/ .

I have read (in places that I cannot remember, but one of which was the introduction to a book of stories by Post starring his demonic attorney-protagonist, Randolph Mason) that the public outcry resulting from this story caused the New York legislature to pass a law that the fact of a death could be proved circumstantially.

In any event, perhaps this page should be merged with Corpus Delicti. 24.27.31.170 (talk) 03:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC) Eric

Possible reference

The following seems useful, but I can't access it at the moment: James Morton (December 2006). "Evidence in 'No-Body' Murder Trials". Journal of Criminal Law. 70 (6): 459–462. doi:10.1350/jcla.2006.70.6.459. ISSN 0022-0183. Cusop Dingle (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

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