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Multiplayer Video Games vs. Multiplayer game

It appears as though these two articles' content refers to the same thing, and should thus be merged. Spinnick597 02:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


NB: I just disputed the separation of Multiplayer game and Multiplayer video game and I call to merge Multiplayer video game with PC Multiplayer and move the result to Multiplayer game. Please see my arguments and post your opinions and counterarguments at Talk:Multiplayer_game#Contesting the Move. Thank you.

Rankiri (talk) 17:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Single-system PC games?

Why are there not more single-system real-time multiplayer video games for Microsoft Windows OS? Why do they all have to be console exclusives? --Damian Yerrick (☎) 06:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

@DMather 154.237.70.103 (talk) 14:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I think there should be info on console online gaming, which started around 2002.--Attitude2000 19:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Online Console Gaming should have its own page Dylan Mather 22:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

@DMather 154.237.70.103 (talk) 14:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Diablo

Diablo is not an MMORPG, it's an RPG with an online component.. Unless I'm misunderstanding the term MMORPG as it is used in this article, the wording should be changed. 151.151.21.101 19:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, it drove me crazy and I changed it. 151.151.73.171 19:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

History

This article needs a history section:

  • Which was the first multiplayer game? Maze War or Empire are candidates, but they were AFAIK run centrally (on a mainframe or somesuch) and only the action was displayed at the remote terminal.
  • The first game I know where two computers running a separate instance of a game exchanging "game data" over a network is either U-Boat Hunt or Hunter-Killer both by Protek, released in 1983 for the ZX Spectrum using the ZX Interface 1 for the networking. There are probably older examples.
  • Which was the first to use Internet?
  • Impact?

--Frodet 22:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

If

If you would write article Mult account (or if there is such an article under another name) plz mention about it on a page Мульт by iwiki. Thanks! Carn 17:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

POV

" such as in the outrageously awesome Worms series " Nice to see we're keeping a neutral POV. Please fix such vandalisms by removing the offending adjectives.Montecarlocars 05:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

History of Multiplayer games on Consoles

Unless objections are made, this section should be deleted. It is meaningless. All console games feature multiplayer. Some consoles allow for more simultaneous players than others, and this is covered in the section that follows. Bulbous 03:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Deleted this section and provided intro for the section that followed. Bulbous 02:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Number of simultaneous players

This section is pretty useless, too. It's just a list. I'm going to delete it unless there are objections. Bulbous (talk) 14:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Rage Quit

Why on earth does a query for "rage quit" direct me to this article? 99.231.205.155 (talk) 11:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

That was the result of the Rage Quit article's AfD. MLauba (talk) 13:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Jargon Section

I boldly created a new Jargon section to accomodate for the Rage quit article's AfD decision. I'm fully aware that this is, in its present state, a poor addition but it struck me as a slightly better approach to the issue than merely redirecting the term straight to this page (which is currently contested at an RfD). MLauba (talk) 13:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Added text re: VTtrek

I added the vttrek information having both played the game and found the MACRO-10 source in various "bitsaver" web sites. However, this entire article (and this is no exception) is riddled with information that is apparently source-less.

Clearly, much of the history of computers was not documented in any formal fashion (we can't, for instance, quote magazine articles), but the information is worth keeping.

I suppose we could send mail to the various authors asking if they know of any more formal press than people's harkening back to the good old days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.24.206.98 (talk) 21:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

"The biggest MMOG in the world is Lineage..." Source?

I cannot find a source to back up the claim that Lineage is the largest MMOG in the world. Is this statement fabricated? 76.204.213.206 (talk) 14:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Dispute first "popular" LAN title

The article currently states: "The first popular videogaming title to release a LAN version was Doom in 1993, when the first network version of the game allowed a total of four simultaneous gamers.[2]" Yes, with the level of popularity of Doom, it blew away anything that came before it, but there were several "popular" games that used multiplayer LANs prior to Doom. The one I experienced was the tank game Bolo[1] which had LAN play on a Mac around 1990. No, it didn't come close to the popularity of Doom, but it was for it's time a very popular Mac game. It supported up to 16 players.

The issue comes down to the term "popular". Should this be changed? Heater212 (talk) 19:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Aren't you splitting hairs? In the context, popularity obviously refers to the state of being widespread, and while the widespread popularity of the first Doom was unequivocal and well-documented[2][3][4][5], I can't find any verifiable evidence that shows that Bolo was ever known to a broader gaming audience outside the few relatively small groups of campus players. If you have any such evidence, please share it. Otherwise, the wording seems to be fairly accurate and noncontroversial. — Rankiri (talk) 18:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

If you take a look at the revision history of this article you will see that there has been a recent spike in the number of unconstructive edits to this article. It seems to me that the original vandal has incited further vandalism because these edits are coming from multiple IP users. I motion that we put some protection on this article, at least temporarily until this activity has subsided. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 06:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

The trouble is there wouldn't be enough vandalism to justify protection. From what I can see there are only two vandalism attempts over the last couple of days, and the most recent before that is over a month ago. I would suggest keeping an eye on it and if it worsens then put in a request at WP:RFPP.--5 albert square (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Turn-based multiplayer?

It seems that the Turn-based multiplayer section under the History heading should simply be merged into the Non-networked section, to keep the section organized and uniform. Thoughts?

Nevermind, I ended up merging the sections myself, feel free to change it back if the change was undesirable.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ZatouEQ (talk • contribs) 02:16, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

link in note nr. 7 to a Wired page leads to a page that no longer exists... It must be checked and if the trouble can't be solved the part of the section "cheating" which depends on that source should be removed or updated with material from another source.--2.40.16.22 (talk) 13:05, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Two-player video game vs. multiplayer video game

It has been suggested to merge the article about the video game mode Two-player into the article Multi Player. A link to the corresponding discussion leads here (though, I couldn't find a discussion, yet).

Anyway, multiplayer implies per definition two-player, as multi refers to any number of instances higher than one. BUT, I think the character of a typical two-player game is considerably different to that of a typical more-than-two-player-game. A two-player game is usually motivated by the direct social interaction between two persons (as in Pong, Combat (1977 video game) or Perfect General) - often in physical presence of the both. Whilst in games with more than two participants, the players usually interact exclusively on the game level in an anonymous manner (as in First-Person shooters or Massively multiplayer online games). I know, there are exceptions to this, but the vast majority of two-player games constitutes a class of its own.

To facilitate a simple differenciation between these two classes I would opt for keeping the two articles distinct.--Karawane 71 (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Question

Why is there a hyphen in “single-player” but not in “multiplayer”?
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 07:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Because "single-player" is a compound, multi-word adjective, while "multiplayer" is a single word with a fused prefix. "Multi-player" is also acceptable and well-attested, but the fully compounded spelling now appears to be dominant. What we never want to see here is "multi player"; multi is not a stand-alone word.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  18:42, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

"Local multiplayer" and lack of any LAN vs. online distinction

This material needs to be reorganized to distinguish between LAN-only and true online multiplayer; they're very different both in gameplay (often involving people side-by-side or within earshot in the former case) and technologically (the latter require also sorts of latency handling, communications protocols for IM and/or compressed voice, etc.).

What drew my attention to this problem (I don't dwell in video game articles) is that Local multiplayer, which usually refers to LAN play, redirects to the section on one-device console multiplayer, and this is very misleading. The sensible arrangement of this would be:

  • A historical intro to the concept: first there was one-device, then .... Keep this short, but include early attempts at network mutiplayer, e.g. on AOL, Compuserve, and via BBS "door" programs, and segue into LAN and today's Internet multiplayer.
  • A section on online (Internet) mutiplayer, distinguishing clearly between head-to-head action, early group multiplayer as in Netrek, and finally massively-multiplayer.
  • A section on LAN multiplayer and it's history throughout the late 1980s to the early 2000s; should probably include the fact that pay-per-hour-or-minute cybercafés were largely fuelled by this form of gaming, and many places that originally opened to provide basic email-checking and office-app computers rapidly switched to high-end gaming machines after discovering a more lucrative market.
  • A section on single-device multiplayer – goes back to earliest consoles like Pong and Atari, is a feature of most arcade video games, and really goes back to pinball.

The last three could be reversed, so they're in chronological order of development, or kept in this order for highest likelihood of immediate reader relevance/interest.

PS: As noted in earlier thread, we also need to distinguish between two-player and "real" or more-than-two-player multiplayer, which is a distinct development. Also first appeared in pinball and then arcade VGs, but did not make the transition to PC and console video games until a much later, for the most part. (I think one Atari game supported up to four players (though only two controllers – one had to hand one's over when one's turn was up) but I may be thinking of a later game system like Intellivision.) Regardless, it was vanishingly rare until home LANs became fairly commonplace and modems were fast enough to handle WAN gaming with more than two simultaneous players, though it was implemented pretty early-on in things like Netrek and MUDs/MOOs/MUSHes on the then largely academic and Internet, using dumb and (for Netrek) X-Windows terminals; that stuff was in full swing by the late 1980s.

 — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  18:41, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

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Distinction Between Online/Network and Local Multiplayer Needed on Game Summary Tables in All Game Articles

This is an important distinction. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enter_the_Gungeon Caelulum (talk) 06:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Local and Online Multiplayer

A distinction between Local multiplayer and Online multiplayer could be a useful distinction. I am considering merging the current "Single-system" section into a new "Local Multiplayer" section. This may also aid with some vagueness surrounding the distinction between LAN multiplayer and Online multiplayer. AlderG (talk) 06:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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