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The following link is dead and there is another one with the same content, so I put it below Egeymi (talk) 18:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC):[reply]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090828/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_saudi_assassination_attempt Article at yahoo-news by Associated Press Writer Abdullah Al-shihri, Fri Aug 28, 11:16 am ET

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The following links are put below.Egeymi (talk) 22:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

/* Assassination attempts */ details from former CIA director Leon Panetta's 2014 book

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The page, at present, cites a New York Times article in stating: "During Ramadan, Al Aseery waited in line at the Prince's Jeddah home as a "well-wisher". He exploded a suicide bomb, killing himself, but only slightly injuring Mohammed bin Naif, who was protected from the full force of the blast by Al Aseery's body."[1]

An account provided by former CIA director Leon Panetta (in a book written by Panetta) differs. According to Panetta, Al Aseery had an appointment to meet with bin Nayef. Aseery "arrived on schedule" and "bin Nayef greeted him politely, leading him to a set of pillows on the floor, where the two sat, their shoulders nearly touching. As they did, Asiri [Aseery] began to shake and cry. Then he reached under his robe, briefly alarming bin Nayef. But instead of drawing out a weapon, he emerged with a cell phone, saying that he wanted to call his family and tell them that he was turning himself in. The sight of the cell phone was a relief, bin Nayef told me. But then, before he could fully process Asiri's actions, a huge explosion ripped through the room." [2]

Panetta's account conflicts with the account provided by the New York Times. I'm not sure what should be done, if anything, just wanted to bring it to the attention of whoever maintains the accuracy of this page. Mattcaplan (talk) 20:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Michael Slackman (28 August 2009), "Would-Be Killer Linked to Al Qaeda, Saudis Say", The New York Times, retrieved 23 August 2015
  2. ^ Panetta, Leon (2014). Worthy Fights. Penguin Press. p. 244. ISBN 978-1-59420-596-5.

Article name

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MidasHotel20 recently moved this article from Muhammad bin Nayef to Muhammad, Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. This is in accordance with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility), but there is ambiguity with Muhammad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, a crown prince who resigned.

The other Saudi crown princes who never became king are named without title. This is in contrast to, for example, Arthur, Prince of Wales. Whatever is decided here should be applied to princes Sultan and Nayef, who both died as crown prince.

My opinion is that Muhammad bin Nayef is the most appropriate name, but I'd like to see a consensus before the article moves again. —Guanaco 17:34, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After looking at history and discussion regarding his father's article, I see that precedent supports "Muhammad bin Nayef". Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud was moved to its current title in January 2012, months before his death. —Guanaco 17:51, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nayef vs. Naif

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Nayef and Naif are used interchangeably throughout the article. The linked Saudi source uses Naif, and Western media generally uses Nayef. Both are correct, but we need to pick one and use it consistently. —Guanaco 17:38, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Upon further research, Nayef is clearly more prevalent. I'm going with that one for now. —Guanaco 17:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New Revelations

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This article has details that might should be added to the article;

Saudi King’s Son Plotted Effort to Oust His Rival

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-mohammed-bin-nayef-mohammed-bin-salman.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

I will, if others don't. --Wikipietime (talk) 12:45, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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