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Hi, I don't understand why you deleted Tangjiashan, which I created as a redirect page, and just one minute later re-created it as a main page. Why not just directly change it to a main page to keep my edit history? Please respect other editors' contributions and be cautious to delete pages. Usually a lake's name can be a redirect to the lake's own page unless there are other articles sharing this name. Actually if Tangjiashan refers to a mountain, it should be named as Tangjia Mountains or Mount Tangjia according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese). Tangjiashan itself cannot be directly the title of the mountain or the lake. Now it should be a disambiguation page. Thanks. --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. What happened was that I saw the redirect and considered it inappropriate, because Tangjiashan is not Tangjiashan Lake, and your redirect was misleading in that it implied that Tangjiashan was Tangjiashan Lake, which is not true. I felt it was important that we have an article on the subject of Tangjiashan, and deleting the redirect creates a redlink that encourages someone else more knowledgeable about that mountain than me to go ahead and create an article on that subject.

Right after I did the deletion, I decided I might as well start that article so that someone else can expand it. Then I got distracted and simply forgot to undelete the original first edit. Sorry about that! I've restored your original redirect edit.

—Lowellian (reply) 07:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. But, as I said, Tangjiashan is the lake's name. It can refer to both the mountain and the lake just as Huangshan can refer to both Huangshan Mountains and Huangshan City (although Huangshan originally refers to the mountain and the city is named after the mountain). Yellowstone is also not Yellowstone Lake, but Yellowstone Lake appears in Yellowstone (disambiguation). That implies that readers often just search for the lake's name and omit the word Lake. Creating Tangjiashan as a redirect to Tangjiashan Lake is useful and not misleading especially when there is no other article under the same title. Even when Tangjiashan was established as a page for the mountain, it's still necessary to add disambiguation link to Tangjiashan Lake. More importantly, Tangjiashan is not the proper title for the mountain. As I pointed it out, this mountain should be titled as Mount Tangjia or Tangjia Mountains according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese). Shan (山) means mountain in Chinese language. Tangjiashan literally means a mountain named Tangjia. Accurately speaking, Tangjiashan is the lake's name and Tangjia is the mountain's name. Therefore the mountain should be moved to its proper title and Tangjiashan should be changed to a disambiguation page. Then I will create Tangjia as a redirect page to the mountain. Please don't delete it again on the ground that Tangjia (唐家) literally means Tang family and a redirect to the mountain is misleading in that it implies that Tangjia is Tangjia Mountain. Thank you. --Neo-Jay (talk) 21:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, all this sounds fine to me. :) —Lowellian (reply) 21:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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