Talk:Mount Greylock/GA2

GA Reassessment

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I'm nominating this article for a reassessment, partially because the GA review initiated by User:1234r00t was completed in a mere 16 minutes (see [1] and [2]) in what seemed to be a rush to get the nomination out of the backlog, and because I found numerous MoS issues, reference style issues, prose concerns, and over-linking in only a minute of skimming through it. The review was, in a nutshell, irresponsibly handled. I'm not saying that the article does not deserve it, however; but it definitely needs a proper lookover.

My quick review of the article:

Prose:

• "...where stands the iconic 93-foot (28 m) high lighthouse-like Massachusetts Veterans War Memorial Tower." -> Add |adj=mid|-long bridge to the convert template to get "93-foot-high (28 m)".
• "Mount Greylock is composed of a north-south oriented central ridge..." -> North-south?
• First paragraph of Geography needs to be more prose-like, less list-like.
• "Geographically, Mount Greylock forms an 11-mile (18 km) long by 4.5-mile (7.2 km) wide island-like range..." -> Add code to the convert template again, per point #1.
• "...the Berkshires to the south and east..." -> You mean southeast?
• The words "flanked" and "thence" are used a little too often in the final paragraph of the Geography section. Replace with a quick synonym (I'm not awake enough to suggest one for flanked).
• "Mount Greylock is the product of thrust faulting, a tectonic process by which older rock is thrust up and above younger rock during periods of intense mountain building." -> Aren't they all? (That's a legitimate question.)
  • No, thrust faulting is quite rare: mostly younger rock stays on top of older rock. —hike395 (talk) 21:17, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
• "Mount Greylock and the surrounding region were covered by ice sheets up to 1-kilometer (0.62 mi) thick." -> Replace with "in thickness".
• "...including a 120-foot (37 m) tall red spruce." -> Point #1.
• "...climbed Mount Greylock several times. His experiences here, especially a walk..." -> "Here" to "there". "Especially" to "specifically".
• "Along with this came devastating forest fires and landslides. Following a devastating forest fire..." -> Consider an alternative to using "devastating forest fire" twice.
• "Legislation was filed by William H. Chase, Editor of the Berkshire Sunday Democrat..." -> Editor should be de-capitalized.
• "This included supporting testimony from Williams College Professor of Geology T. Nelson Dale..." -> Likewise for "professor of geology" (or geology professor).
• Multiple issues with the final paragraph of "1800s" (slashes, italics usage, and excessive parentheses).
• "As a result of increased popularity of winter recreation and downhill skiing the Mount Greylock Ski Club initiated a plan to create a challenging ski run on Mount Greylock." -> Missing a comma. Occurs a few times in the article with sub-ordinate clauses (By 1929, By the late nineteenth century...).

MoS:

• Add |abbr=none|lk=on to first instances of measurement units, |abbr=on to the rest.
• "The mountain is known for its expansive views encompassing five states and the only taiga/boreal forest in the state." -> MOS:SLASH (another occurrence in Forests and old growth)
• "A network of hiking trails traverse..." -> Delink hiking.
  • Replaced with hiking trails —hike395 (talk) 05:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
• Remove the excessive bolding throughout the article.
• Serial commas are not consistent throughout the article. Some have a comma before the "and", some don't (MOS:SERIAL).
• "Gray Lock (c.1670-1750) was a Western Abenaki Missisquoi chief of Woronoco/Pocomtuc ancestry..." -> MOS:SLASH again. Space after "circa".
• "Melville dedicated his next novel, Pierre," -> Italics on the book per MOS:ITALIC, the full title of the book (Pierre: or, The Ambiguities) is probably better to use.
• "Aside from shares to fund its operation, the GPA charged a 25-cent toll for the carriage road and a 10-cent fee to ascend the iron observation tower (built 1889)." -> This would be a perfect time to use the Inflation template.
  • Neat. I didn't know about this template. —hike395 (talk) 07:33, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
• "By the winter of 1897..." -> I suggest using "By early-1897..." per WP:SEASON.
• "It was opened to the public on September 16, 1907, running “through six farms (and one or two cattle passes), passing Round’s Rock, a fine view point, and throughout its entire distance affords unsurpassed views of Berkshire hills and valleys lying to the south and west of the reservation." -> Curly quotes should be replaced with straight ones, quotation itself is missing an end quotation mark.
• "But due to disputes between the local Berkshire Hills Conference trail group and the outsider Appalachian Trail Conference/Appalachian Mountain Club Berkshire Chapter" -> Slashes. This case it could be replaced with "and".

References:

• There is a tag in the infobox.
• Final paragraph of Early history seems to be original research, or at the least, is completely based on assumptions.
• Many references use a vague method for newspaper articles. I recommend using the Cite template.
• Ref #1, 16 is dead.
• Some refs have insufficient info (no title, publisher, access date, publishing date)
• References' date formats are inconsistent.

Criterion 3:

• 3b.: Is the excessive amount of accounts for summitting the mountain really a part of the mountain's history? (Section: 1800s)

NPOV:

• "The greatest period of development on Mount Greylock occurred in the 1930s." -> Is this neutral?

All I can do right now. Anyhow, it has many problems which have never been addressed, and in a nutshell, it does not currently qualify as a GA. Should be de-listed and have its review continued. _EricLeb⁰¹ (Page | Talk) 04:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Article has been de-listed. Editors wishing to further the progress of this article may do so with the use of these comments. Cross out and question them as you please, as I am watching the page. Regards. _EricLeb⁰¹ (Page | Talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)