Talk:Motul

Requested move 30 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) MaterialWorks (contribs) 02:07, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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• Motul → Motul (disambiguation)
• Motul (company) → Motul

– Motul (company) is far and away the primary topic for Motul both by pageviews and from WikiNav TartarTorte 17:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:19, 6 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 01:28, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

• The WikiNav link shows that there were 83 clicks on that item out of a total of 159 views, which is ~52%. That is not actually indicative of a primary topic by usage, because ~48% of the readers didn't go there despite it being the first item in the very short list. --Joy (talk) 17:24, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  I'm a bit confused by that because the top shows 100% of clickthroughs going to Motul of clickthroughs (I believe meaning none of the other pages hit 10% clickthrough, but I could be wrong about that threshold). I wonder if there is another thing people want for Motul that is not on the DAB that is having so many people go to this article then not clickthrough to anything. I am also possible just misinterpreting WikiNav in general. Having said that, that is a good argument for keeping as DAB as that could lend to people putting the possibly missing/desired Motul article at the DAB when created. TartarTorte 18:12, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  Yes. There's also a number of other possibilities, for example that there's a sizable population of readers who are happy to read the list captions and that's enough for them, or that there are some for whom the list itself is too much and they just give up, or some people might be clicking on the first item out of pure inertia, or perhaps the software is wrongly identifying some of the incoming traffic from bots as if it was actual users. Whatever the case may be, I'd be wary of short-circuiting early, esp. on such relatively low volume. (I'm generally in favor of a more tempered application of the primary topic guideline.) --Joy (talk) 19:09, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

• Leave as disamb. Corporation article can easily be found, and no need to promote it over other important uses. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:03, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  Time for listing has expired, but it has been relisted repeatedly, with no further discussion. Unless there is fresh discussion soon, I suggest closing, no consensus to move. -- Infrogmation (talk) 20:56, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

followup to move discussion

https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Motul indicates that in October '23, there were a total of 211 views, of which 102 clickstreams to the company could be identified. I checked the archive of clickstreams and page views and the same comparison for September was 191 views and 93 to the company, and for August 152 views, with 78 to the company. It looks to be fairly consistent about hovering around 50%, it's a bit odd. --Joy (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

In January, it was also 103/203. --Joy (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)