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A fact from Mori Calliope appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 February 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that for at least 90 minutes, Mori Calliope livestreamed herself begging video game developer Atlus to allow her to stream their game Persona 3?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Article is new and long enough. The term unorthodox doesn't appear in the article, but I guess it's close enough so I'll give 0 and Alt1 the okay. I would also link VTuber; it's a niche subculture that most readers probably don't know. Alt2 doesn't quite convey the fact that she did a livestream consisting entirely of her begging the company—it reads more like she spent 90 minutes at the office talking to Atlus's legal department or something. And maybe there's more context somewhere, but going strictly by what the source says, to me "begging for permission to play" doesn't necessarily mean "requesting copyright clearance". QPQ supplied. As for the article, hmm. Approaching this as someone who has heard of Hololive and VTubing but nothing more, it was... rather confusing to follow. I know it's an inherent feature of the medium, but reading the article I have trouble trying to make sense of whether the descriptions are of the fictional character / invented persona or the real person behind them. The sources seem to take it for granted and blend them together, but Wikipedia articles need to provide context so that "the reader should always be able to differentiate between real world and fictional content", per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction. (The article is also a lot of successive dates, without quite enough context on how the their rapper/singer career was launched. Are singing VTubers something Hololive already has an established system for? I'll also note that I'm not quite convinced of the strength of the sourcing, as most of them are just brief coverage of her activities or direct repetitions of announcements.) All in all, I'll put this on hold pending better real-world / in-universe distinction. Please consider the other issues non-mandatory suggestions. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Paul 012: Regarding ALT2: I need to assure compliance with copyright policy and WP:LIMITED only goes so far.
Oh, and given the secretive nature of VTubers' real-life identities, the best we have that could count for real world content is real-life activities associated with the fictional VTuber identity. Hence, in order to distinguish between fictional content and real-world content, the overview section is about the VTuber's fictional persona, and the career section is about the real-life activities associated with the VTuber; I organized the page that way in line with pages like Projekt Melody and Ironmouse. Almost everything in the career section is in the context of her real-world activities; as for the sole exception: while she speaks in-character for her Crunchyroll News interview, said interview treats her like a real-life person. I have fixed the overview section in compliance with MOS:IN-U, so I'd say there should be enough distinction between fictional and real-life. In the meantime, I've linked VTuber in the hooks. ミラP@Miraclepine04:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; those small changes make a big improvement. While it would be ideal if the Overview section included more background on how Hololive creates its VTubers (right now the section could just be titled "Character", as it doesn't provide much of an overview), I'm not going to hold it against the DYK nom. The interview quote is still a bit unclear whether it's an in-character or real-life answer, but I guess there's not much we can do as that's how it comes from the source. If you want to go with the Alt2 fact, I'd say something along the lines of "spent 90 minutes on a livestream asking game developer Atlus to let her play..." (I'm still uncomfortable with "copyright clearance", as the need for permission could also be due to a number of non-copyright related restrictions.) Otherwise, I'll approve with the Alts 0 and 1. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Paul 012: I found two RS for the Persona 3 incident and have put them in the article, fixed the issue, and proposed new hooks accordingly. The Polygon source connects it to Japanese copyright law (which is infamously strict), but I think the hooks can do without it.
Thanks. Good to go with all remaining hooks. Slight personal preference for Alt3 as it best conveys the quirks of the event, despite being longer. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Her bio does not mention "rapper" and she has stopped using that word for 2+ years. Her songs are just normal songs with occasionally some rap portions (which is not that uncommon). Witchilich (talk) 22:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]